I posted the Vented Valve Cover thread and its been getting good responce and alot of great info. Not for my self but for others and questions are getting answered!

Now i am looking to do a AN fuel setup to my rail and a billet fuel filter I am looking to get some ideas on some setups people have done so PLEASE if you hav done this and have pics alot of us would like to see your work and creativity maybe help alot of us get some ideas

Thank you for all who take part!

Russ

 

From the fuel pump to rail is -8AN



Return is -6AN


Return to the tank


FPR and fuel sample valve


Hope this helps....

 

Are you planning to use this with a cell or stock tank? I'd be interested to see how people have installed external pumps with the stock tank, if that's possible.

 

I run a stock tank that's sumped.

 

Ah good info. I don't think a sump is wise for my application, but good stuff to know regardless. Thanks! I looked through some old threads that gave me some ideas, but rather than reinvent the wheel, I wonder if someone has done it with an internal surge tank.

 

Yes, it's been done. You won't find a surge tank in a drag racing application, but in any other application they are great to use.

 

Tepid1- That setup is killer really nice!

 

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Return is -6AN


Return to the tank


FPR and fuel sample valve


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How the hell is the underneath of your car so clean? Do you wax it?

 

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LOL. Well it's a 2000 GSR w/ only 50k miles. It's not driven in the winter either. Never has been.

 

I think a surge tank setup is a much better way to go than a sumped tank in any application, sumped tanks suck when you have less than 1/4 tank.

 

Tony, have you seen many internal surge tanks with external pumps in a stock Honda tank? This is what I'm thinking about doing with the Prelude when I convert it to E85. I thought about putting foam in the tank too. I'd just like to run it with less fuel without worrying about fuel starvation.

 

Doing an internal surge tank would be tough, but an external surge tank is easy.

If it came down to it, and it had to be internal, we could cut the tank open and build one inside.

 

Is there a coating on the inside of Honda's gas tanks? Would this affect that tanks compatibility with E85 at all?

I haven't thought about an external surge tank. Would this require two fuel pumps, and how large should the surge tank be made?

I'm thinking it might be easier to just try an external pump with E85 first, then if I have fuel starvation issues, then figure out a surge tank setup.

 

It seems to be like a galvanized type coating on the inside. I'm not 100% on that though.

 

Why not just run an in tank walbro 255, that'll be more than enough fuel for your car on E85, and picking up from the factory "bowl" is as effective of a surge tank as you're going to get.

 

Because I'm a chicken, and I'm concerned about in-tank issues with E85 fuel. What needs to be done to the electrical connectors due to the E85?

Also, do you think 370cc/min injectors would be enough (they're 290cc/min now, but I'm not sure what the duty cycle is). I have a set of 410cc/min RDX injectors, but I think it might be a bit of a challenge to get them to work with the Euro R mani.

 

What's a surge tank and why is it better than a sumped tank? I can't decide what do with my fuel system....has anyone ran .5" hard line for the feed instead of -8an line? or is it more trouble than it's worth?

 

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Also, do you think 370cc/min injectors would be enough (they're 290cc/min now, but I'm not sure what the duty cycle is). I have a set of 410cc/min RDX injectors, but I think it might be a bit of a challenge to get them to work with the Euro R mani.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 370's would probably be ok, but the 410's might be a safer bet if you can make them fit.

As far as tank and wiring issues, i've done a lot of cars now with nothing more than changing the fuel and retuning, and have yet to have a problem. A lot of people think the E85 is WAY more corrosive than it really is.

For what it's worth, the N/A car i did on E85, did a back to back 93 vs. E85. K24/K20, stock head and block so the compression isn't too high, cams, header, and intake. 243whp on 93 octane, 255whp on E85. I think the gains would be even better on a higher compression setup.

 

i still dont know why someone(at least that i know of) hasnt built a small "fuel cell" inside the oem gastank, that would only hold a gallon or 2. rather than have the whole tank to fill up. that would be one of the 1st things i did if i were running in a street class. it would still look oem on the outside, but it would really be a small fuel cell on the inside... it could even use a sump on the bottom of the oem tank.

 

Not all of us drag race.

 

Cheater

 

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who says it hasnt been done already. IF it had been, you wouldnt know about it. just like having a fake intercooler...

 

i think mine goes from:
#8 from fuel cell to fuel filter
#8 from fuel filter to fuel pump
#6 from fuel pump to fuel rail
#6 from fuel rail to fuel pressure regulator
#6 from fuel pressure regulator to fuel cell

 

The OEM fule line going in to the filter with the fitting. Im thinking about using a Tube to AN fitting. But im not sure if is a 3/8. anyone know for sure. ? Thanks in advance