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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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i need to change my oil pump seal and my crank gear (the one the timing belt is on) wont come off. ive tried heating it and prying it off nothing helped
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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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did you take the woodruff key and everything out? mine slid right off once i got my crank pulley off...
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Old May 13, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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the woodruf key wont come out either, im not able to get any tools on it to pull it out.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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bump because i need some tips. im sure some engine builders have had this problem before
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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becarful with heating it you are directley heating the crankshaft, ive had the problem several times lol mostly on cores that other kids that dunno what there doing give me lol ,

some wd40 or engine brite (dont wash off the engine brite as stated on the can tho) usally dows it, also hitting it back to where it was origanlly with a rubber mallet usally beaks w/e seal is on it then comes loose
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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have you tried....a gear puller?

I sure as hell would put something like a stack of washers or even a small slat of wood on the crank so the tip doenst damage the crank threads though
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Old May 15, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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or just grind the front off the tip off you can buy that tool for like 10 bucks im not sure its called a gear puller idk maybe it is but i saw it at autozone on sale
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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i tried a gear puller and wasnt able to gat it behind the crank gear (sits flush with oil pump), so it had nothing to hold on to.


i had this prolem before and hitting the gear only chipped a tooth no it
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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is the engine out of the car? i have to unbolt the oil pump and pull out on it to get it started then i put it back on and used a gear puller. i ended up breaking the gear anyway so i ordered a new gear and key for like 30 bucks.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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the engine is in the car. i am replacing the oil pump so im not woried about damagine it.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:16 AM
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taking off the oil pump isnt hard at all.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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it hard if the crank gear is stuck on
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Old May 20, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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any other input
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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what sort of clearance is between the gear and the block?
the only thing i can suggest is the u get a small wedge style punch and try to convince it to come off that way ... you may need quite a few diferent sizes
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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that might work, but i dont want to break a tooth
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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if you do it carefully hitting all sides of the thing and not just one point it should come out at least far enough to get the next sized punch in there.. then if u have enough space u can then get the puller back there and finish the job..
if it doesnt want to move at all u may have to sacrifice the gear
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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usually when i run into this i soak it in penetrant and lightly tap it with a brass hammer. then i use two large flathead screwdrivers, one on either side and carefully pry it. then i tap it back towards the motor. i repeat this back and forth and eventually they move and slide off.
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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any other tips, because ill probly do this today
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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listen to this guy, this way always works, just spray alittle wd40 on it an let it sit awhile, i wouldent be beating it with a hammer or using screw drivers on it
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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you could try one of the clam shell type of bearing pullers
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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I like hearing all of the success storys of gettin them off.
In my case i had to weld half inch solid stock bar to it and a plate on the end. Then i hammered the plate and it came right off. worse case senario i guess.
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