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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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ok out of the blue question here. ive already been tuned once on the skunk2 stage 3 cams. i would like any info anyone can give me about them or what is working out on their own cars. i will be retuning again here soon with the addition of an exhaust cam gear. i appreciate any and all info anyone can give me.
like i also said my car now feels slower

my setup is as follows performance wise:
injen cai
spoon tb
rbc portmatched
hondata gasket
skunk2 stage 3 cams
skunk2 exhaust cam gear
skunk2 valvetrain
comptech rh
rsr exmag gt2 65mm
stock bottom end
kpro

performance wise i think that is it so all info or opinions is greatly appreciated especially settings in kpro
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thought you guys would want to take a look at this also. any info or comments even thoughts are appreciated




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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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are you tuning the car?
dyno tuning would help a lot

also the rsr exhaust would choke up a lot of that extra power

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Old May 1, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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do you have dyno graphs from before and after you were tuned? look at your midrange numbers.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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its the rsr exmag gtII the stupid crazy loud one so it is flowing well, yes it was tuned via kpro on the dyno i just dont have any before and after numbers to show but it still doesnt make sense to me
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by taggart_lumpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its the rsr exmag gtII the stupid crazy loud one so it is flowing well, yes it was tuned via kpro on the dyno i just dont have any before and after numbers to show but it still doesnt make sense to me</TD></TR></TABLE>

As was suggested, your peak HP could be quite a bit more with the mods. But, your midrange could be seriously compromised if tuned poorly.

Also, was there a large temp/humidity difference on the nights you ran the 1/4 mile? A hot night will easily cost you a half second or more.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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sounds like you werent tuned for midrange power. who tuned your kpro for you? you should pull more power than that. and what size is you exhaust?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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exhaust is 65mm and i would say there was a 7 degree or so difference in the weather. i just purchased an exhaust cam gear so i hope i can get in a little more fine tuning with it and work on the midrange some. hopefully tuning next week missed the session today
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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why is there that big dip in A/F at 3000 rpm?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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your telling me mang
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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getting retuned monday now
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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Wow, what a craptastic tune. You sure this guy knows what the hell they are doing?

Judging by those dyno charts, I'd say no.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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i would hope so we have never had an issue before or with any of our k series turbo cars.... like i said it was a quick tune
im more so trying to figure out what has been working well for others and getting their impression of the graphs
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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First of all, the guy isn't even close with the vtec x-over. See that huge spike and then valley?

Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.

On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.

I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Dayum I hope that doesn't happen to me! How much did you pay by the way?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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pay for in reguards to what?
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Old May 6, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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up for sunday
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Old May 6, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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try pm'ing mase on HT and ask him what he thinks of the dyno chart

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http://www.masetuning.com/
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Old May 6, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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pm'd him
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Old May 7, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by taggart_lumpy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">up for sunday</TD></TR></TABLE>

No need to bump (it is not allowed). What else do you want to know? Obviously its a crappy tune, especially since your car is slower now. Look at some decent K-series dyno charts, then look at yours. The hp/torque curve should be moved up, not a huge series of peaks/valleys.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, the guy isn't even close with the vtec x-over. See that huge spike and then valley?

Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.

On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.

I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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it looks like u might use a dif tuner, ur afr doesnt look very smooth.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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You need to find another tuner. That A/F ratio has to be one of the worst I have seen in a long time. I have also seen over 100 HP gain just from A/F tuning on more than one occasion. Your engine is like a set of lungs, and from that chart your motor has some nasty asthma. 14.7:1 is perfect or the ideal A/F ratio so depending on your set up she might like screamin a little lean or fat. I know from the factory Honda has the K motor runnin a little lean after V-TEC, but remember, it's a lot easier to detonate or run hot when in a lean condition so be careful. I would try and get your A/F curve as close to 13.5ish :1 and then go from there, but remember, if she starts makin more power the leaner you go don't get to greedy or you'll be starting over from scratch again.
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