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*** slower, please read ***
ok out of the blue question here. ive already been tuned once on the skunk2 stage 3 cams. i would like any info anyone can give me about them or what is working out on their own cars. i will be retuning again here soon with the addition of an exhaust cam gear. i appreciate any and all info anyone can give me.
like i also said my car now feels slower
my setup is as follows performance wise:
injen cai
spoon tb
rbc portmatched
hondata gasket
skunk2 stage 3 cams
skunk2 exhaust cam gear
skunk2 valvetrain
comptech rh
rsr exmag gt2 65mm
stock bottom end
kpro
performance wise i think that is it so all info or opinions is greatly appreciated especially settings in kpro
thanks
thought you guys would want to take a look at this also. any info or comments even thoughts are appreciated
Modified by taggart_lumpy at 12:29 AM 5/3/2007
Modified by taggart_lumpy at 11:25 AM 5/4/2007
like i also said my car now feels slower
my setup is as follows performance wise:
injen cai
spoon tb
rbc portmatched
hondata gasket
skunk2 stage 3 cams
skunk2 exhaust cam gear
skunk2 valvetrain
comptech rh
rsr exmag gt2 65mm
stock bottom end
kpro
performance wise i think that is it so all info or opinions is greatly appreciated especially settings in kpro
thanks
thought you guys would want to take a look at this also. any info or comments even thoughts are appreciated
Modified by taggart_lumpy at 12:29 AM 5/3/2007
Modified by taggart_lumpy at 11:25 AM 5/4/2007
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its the rsr exmag gtII the stupid crazy loud one so it is flowing well, yes it was tuned via kpro on the dyno i just dont have any before and after numbers to show but it still doesnt make sense to me
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by taggart_lumpy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its the rsr exmag gtII the stupid crazy loud one so it is flowing well, yes it was tuned via kpro on the dyno i just dont have any before and after numbers to show but it still doesnt make sense to me</TD></TR></TABLE>
As was suggested, your peak HP could be quite a bit more with the mods. But, your midrange could be seriously compromised if tuned poorly.
Also, was there a large temp/humidity difference on the nights you ran the 1/4 mile? A hot night will easily cost you a half second or more.
As was suggested, your peak HP could be quite a bit more with the mods. But, your midrange could be seriously compromised if tuned poorly.
Also, was there a large temp/humidity difference on the nights you ran the 1/4 mile? A hot night will easily cost you a half second or more.
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sounds like you werent tuned for midrange power. who tuned your kpro for you? you should pull more power than that. and what size is you exhaust?
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exhaust is 65mm and i would say there was a 7 degree or so difference in the weather. i just purchased an exhaust cam gear so i hope i can get in a little more fine tuning with it and work on the midrange some. hopefully tuning next week missed the session today
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i would hope so we have never had an issue before or with any of our k series turbo cars.... like i said it was a quick tune
im more so trying to figure out what has been working well for others and getting their impression of the graphs
im more so trying to figure out what has been working well for others and getting their impression of the graphs
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First of all, the guy isn't even close with the vtec x-over. See that huge spike and then valley?
Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.
On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.
I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...
Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.
On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.
I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...
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try pm'ing mase on HT and ask him what he thinks of the dyno chart
link for jOO
http://www.masetuning.com/
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by taggart_lumpy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">up for sunday</TD></TR></TABLE>
No need to bump (it is not allowed). What else do you want to know? Obviously its a crappy tune, especially since your car is slower now. Look at some decent K-series dyno charts, then look at yours. The hp/torque curve should be moved up, not a huge series of peaks/valleys.
No need to bump (it is not allowed). What else do you want to know? Obviously its a crappy tune, especially since your car is slower now. Look at some decent K-series dyno charts, then look at yours. The hp/torque curve should be moved up, not a huge series of peaks/valleys.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, the guy isn't even close with the vtec x-over. See that huge spike and then valley?
Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.
On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.
I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ROTFLMFAO
Also, the torque curve should be pretty flat--that's the nature of a vtec motor.
On both accounts I think the chart looks pretty crappy.
I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'm not sure I'd even let this guy tune my radio...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ROTFLMFAO
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You need to find another tuner. That A/F ratio has to be one of the worst I have seen in a long time. I have also seen over 100 HP gain just from A/F tuning on more than one occasion. Your engine is like a set of lungs, and from that chart your motor has some nasty asthma. 14.7:1 is perfect or the ideal A/F ratio so depending on your set up she might like screamin a little lean or fat. I know from the factory Honda has the K motor runnin a little lean after V-TEC, but remember, it's a lot easier to detonate or run hot when in a lean condition so be careful. I would try and get your A/F curve as close to 13.5ish :1 and then go from there, but remember, if she starts makin more power the leaner you go don't get to greedy or you'll be starting over from scratch again.
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