my goal is between 400-450whp would be nice to hit 500 if the turbo could push it out

57trim t3/t4 turbonetics turbo (I know its small but its what I can afford right now)

Im planning on getting this turbo to put out as much power it can. Its going into a weekend/track car so I wont be driving it much

Would race gas like c16 be wasted money or should I just run pump 100oct

Any recommendations for fuel to run to hit my goals

My set up I have
gsr head with ctr cams and skunk2 valve train
HP racing sheet metal intake manifold
bored out TB around 65 or 66mm (maybe upgrading to 68mm skunk2)
LS block with dart sleeves
84.5 aries pistons (should be around 9.2-9.5:1 with my gsr head)
crower rods
micropolished LS crank
ERL exaust manifold
3" down pipe and exaust
Tail 44mm wastegate (over kill but the manifold has flange for it anyways)
Hondata s300
ARC blow off (anyone using this kind can they hold big psi, got it for a good deal)
750cc injectors (recommendations should I go bigger or not)
aeromotive fuel regulator
walbro fuel pump
ATI crank pulley

 

you could hit your goal with 93-100 octane just depends on tuning mostly im in florida so 0 sea level gives me tons of options that an no emission laws

also around how much boost you looking to run

 

E85 FTW **** is awesome and cost less too!!!!!!!!

 

e85 also burns more. burns more cost less.

 

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108-109 octane for $2.75 a gallon or 100 octane for $4-5 bucks a gallon..

Anyone with a head on their shoulders would simply run e85. Who cares if it burns faster. I am sure this guy isn't trying to build a 400-450whp 40+mpg fuel efficient car.

 

http://www.agriculture.state.ia.us/e85q&a.html


Ethanol has less energy content than gasoline. However, E85 also has a much higher octane (ranging from 100 to 105) than gasoline. FFVs are not optimized to E85, so they experience a 5% to 15% drop in fuel economy. This will vary based on temperature and driving conditions. For comparison purposes, aggressive driving habits can result in a 20% loss and low tire pressure can reduce mileage by 6%.


last week I paid 2.99 a gallon for 93 octane yesterday I paid 2.36 for e85 105 octane F**K the fact you use more. Id rather have "race gas @ the pump" for less I made 379WHP @ 11.5 psi with e85 zero detonation.

 

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also around how much boost you looking to run </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im planning around 22lbs of boost, unless the turbo is caple of pushing out more with out just blowing hot air. I'm going to have the car tunned good, Church is doing my tune.

If I run e85 will 750cc injectors be good for my power goals or should I go bigger?

 

Why is it that e85 is a higher octane? How sure are u that is wont cause more detonation, im just kinda new to this and still questioning it and wanting more info about running e85.

 

E85 will need more fuel than regular gas. I have a tuner that tune e85 here. When I ask him if my dsm 450cc injectors will be enough for my turbo d16, he told be that the 450cc will only be good for 201 whp. He told me to get 550cc injector instead. If you want to reach you HP goal with e85 I'll say 1000cc and above. And I decide to stick with regular gas instead. MPG will suck with E85.

 

How does e85 work on a n/a application? I know this is FI but since i have really only seen it used on FI so i thought i would just go ahead and ask in this thread since the topic as been kinda started.

 

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Anyone with a head on their shoulders would simply run e85. Who cares if it burns faster. I am sure this guy isn't trying to build a 400-450whp 40+mpg fuel efficient car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He could w/ 93 Gasoline.

 

Let this picture of me be the answer to your question.

 

1000cc's will get youa little over 500 (with E85 that is)

 

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Im planning around 22lbs of boost, unless the turbo is caple of pushing out more with out just blowing hot air. I'm going to have the car tunned good, Church is doing my tune.

If I run e85 will 750cc injectors be good for my power goals or should I go bigger?

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any turbo blowing 20psi is usually going to be in the 300*F range get a good intercooler. now to answer your question go with 880 injectors an the aeromotive A1000 fuel pump and you should be fine. E85 is an alcohal an alcohals resist detention to very high levels im not to certain if it is completely zero i kno propane for deisels is non-detnatable but alcohal is very resistant. alcohal also requires about 1.5 to 2x the amount of flow to equal gasoline.

 

Where do I get e85, I went to e85refueling.com and there arnt any stations near my house for more than 100 miles is there any other way other than those stations to get some like by the 5 gallon drums. There are no 93oct gas stations in my area either, I know of a 100oct pump but its close to $7gal any other options.

 

can you get a hold of 91 octane if so you can always mix it with a higher grade for when you or tune it thats when ECU management becomes your biggest friend with different fuel maps

 

I want to keep it to one type of fuel since its only a weekend car, dont really want to be mixing so I know I have the right fuel all the time for the tune that will be done. I got a bit hyped for trying the e85 from all the responses people posted till I tried to located a station near by lol

 

lol yeah E85 is great WHEN its near you but tune on 91 i kno you can get that in cali right i kno some ferrari owners using it out there also whats your average temp in covina detnation loves heat so keep the heat in your motor under control an you can get better tuning and more power with reliablity