Hearing another bit of vibration after valve adjustment completed (and done so perfectly i might add) so used stethoscope<or how ever u spell it so i hear a bit of sound coming from timing belt area. im assuming pump is starting to fail, or maybe tensioner. either way how hard is it for the DIY'er? I found a reliable seller for water pump and timing for 140 total canadian dollers shipped. honda would want i think around 800 for timing belt / water pump replacement with their 80 and hour rate. thanks in advance playas. Also, i know its hard to guess, but any idea on how long i got untill its gotta get done. the sound is mild, far far less noticible than the tick from a valve over opperating.

 

umm i actually bought oem honda parts i dont know exact prices but pump belt and all tensioner parts was like 300 from the dealer. so i dont know where u got 800 bux, if you think you can do it yourself the do it, itll be a hella lot cheaper, it is a pita tho, but doable. if it were me id do it my self.

 

the first one i did took me 2 days. mostly because i couldn't get that damn crank pulley bolt off! make sure you have the proper tools to get that bolt off. other than that i didn't think it was all that hard, its a little tight with the engine in the car but possible. just make sure you have all the right tools, a service manual, and one that tells you how to align everything back together too, and plenty of time.

 

Its really not that hard...just as long as you have the right tools,as already stated.

-Break lugnutz loose
-jack up car and place on jack stands.
-remove negative side on battery.
-remove valve cover
-set cam timing to TDC (Top dead center)
-place jack under the oil pan with a wood block and support the engine while you remove the drivers side engine mount.
-Remove the 2 timing belt covers(6-7 10mm bolts)
-remove the crank pulley bolt ...<-----PITA
-loosen the 14mm tensioner bolt
-remove the timing belts
-remove water pump
-install new water pump with new o-ring
-install new timing belts,making sure that the crank and cams are at TDC
-temporarely install the crank pulley and turn the crank counter clockwise 3 teeth on the cam sprocket, This should put tension on the timing belts.
-loosen the tensioner 14mm bolt 1 turn and retighten.
-replace the timing covers
-replace motor mount
-replace belts
-tighten valve cover bolts to 7 ft. lbs.


This is a time consuming job but so worth it in the end...DIY FTW

 

800 was honda installing it and providing timing belt and pump at their mark up

 

alls good untill i see remove driver side engine mount. Whats the purpose of removing the mount. and as far as the jack under the oil pan with a block is that to support only the motor i take it right, to take tension/weight off the motor mount? i don't have to do anything special with the motor mount after i install it do i. i don't wanna end up with any vibrations

 

the reason why you would take off the mount is because how are you gonna put the belt onto the cam? while your at it, make sure you change your cam and crank seals.

 

the motor mount has to be removed so that the main timing belt can come off, being that the belt goes around the crank and then over the cam sprockets , and the motor mount sits dead in the middle...

As far as the wood block , thats just what I do to support the engine while the engine mount is off.

 

Okay, i understand, thanks

 

I just don't understand Honda sometimes. At Toyota, we charge $200 for a 4 cylinder, and $300 for a 6/8 cylinder, and that includes the belt

 

The local stealership charges around 800.00 for water pump/timing belt job here too.
1100.00 if you want the timing side seals changed as well.

What a rip off.

DIY and you will be glad. I have gotten timing belts down to around 4-5 hours if its nice outside and I don't have any distractions. (kids, wife plenty of beer in fridge so I don't have to stop and make a run)

The method up top is the best way. Don't forget to install a new tensioner especially if its of the auto variety.

 

does that mean i could get a toyota dealer/shop to do my timing belt and water pump for 300??? lol that i'd like to see

 

Just review the helms well.

PS There is a major learning curve on these. I just did a front main, cam seals, waterpump, autotensioner, and timing belt on an h22 yesterday in under an hour.

 

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The worst one I had was a 2001 odyssey van v6.

The timing cover had like 12 bolts to take out. Then the damn tensioner piece that I didn't like how the belt sat had to take off press down, pin it and redo. Yeah that sucked. That took me the longest.

Otherwise, the biggest hurdle especially for the first one is the DOHC and getting them to stay put while putting belt on.

If you have done these and work fast and accurate that is still fast for an in bay job. Having the right tools is definately gonna help.

 

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PS There is a major learning curve on these. I just did a front main, cam seals, waterpump, autotensioner, and timing belt on an h22 yesterday in under an hour. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn your quick...my h23 took me 2--3 hours ...if the crank pulley bolt wasnt such a biotch I could have saved at least 45 min.

good job man!

 

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I should have mentioned it wasn't in-bay, but either way, I've done it in there too, not a whole lot different other than the time wasted jacking the car up and all that bs.

 

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Bring in your own parts and see what they say. It's similar enough that I doubt they'd charge you extra