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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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Wanted to know what Grade bolt ARP is.

Also wanted to know what you guys think about taking my old head bolts and rod bolts to a machinist, and having him make some outta grade 12 or something.

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Save yourself the trouble and money...buy yourself some ARP headstuds and Rod Bolts.

They are the best in the game, use them.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1995Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Save yourself the trouble and money...buy yourself some ARP headstuds and Rod Bolts.

They are the best in the game, use them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ya seriously save yourself the money/time to have them machined and buy ARP's. no offense but i doubt your machinist can do near as good of a job as them.

if you get arps, just make sure you use their lube or whatever they come with or you might have trouble with them backing out.

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Yea i would just go with ARP or A1 (if you could afford them). But hey you could always do the machinist way and try marketing them if they last on your car. But i would always perfer studs over bolts for the head and bolts over studs for the rods.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicVX94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ya seriously save yourself the money/time to have them machined and buy ARP's. no offense but i doubt your machinist can do near as good of a job as them.

if you get arps, just make sure you use their lube or whatever they come with or you might have trouble with them backing out.

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Exactly.

You have to think man...ARP is putting ALL their time and effort into developing the best stud available...

no offense is right, but i dont think your machinist gives that much of a damn to make sure they are THAT strong
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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What some people use, especially in the E30 forums, are what are referred to as metric blues. Mcmastercarr.com has them, you just need to know the length, and thread pitch. Much cheaper than ARP.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frstbte14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What some people use, especially in the E30 forums, are what are referred to as metric blues. Mcmastercarr.com has them, you just need to know the length, and thread pitch. Much cheaper than ARP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I checked that web, looks way cheaper. but I could not find which I needed. i dont know the sizes or measurements.

Thanks for your inputs.

this kinda sucks, im so tight with money right now and need rod bolts and head bolts. How could a machine shop mess that up anyway? if i were to take him a bolt from the DueceDuece and say make me 10 copies with grade 12. what could go wrong. When i see the price of ARP i feel like im just paying for the name.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I would always prefer studs over bolts for the head and bolts over studs for the rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what come stock in the H? Studs or bolts?

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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there all bolts stock. check ebay or elsewhere for golden eagle headstuds. guy im building LSVTEC for got them for 100 bucks off ebay. ARP's will run you in the range of 125 on ebay. im talking B series though , ive never priced for H.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what come stock in the H? Studs or bolts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bolts for the head, and studs for the rods.

Theroritically nothing should go wrong, but if you ever plan on building or boosting, or even nitrious theres a chance of the bolts stretching over time. ARP and other brands are heat treated to make there strenght so high. I believe ARP tensel strenght is in the 250,000 + range.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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if your not going to do serious upgrades that you feel will lift your head off your block...go for OEM...you can never go wrong with OEM
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blazedevo781 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can never go wrong with OEM</TD></TR></TABLE>
except when you want power
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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What are the messurement of the H series head bolts? id like to get some from that web site (metric blues) but i dont know the size or messurements.
btw nice engine bay thc07
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blazedevo781 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your not going to do serious upgrades that you feel will lift your head off your block...go for OEM...you can never go wrong with OEM</TD></TR></TABLE>

Umm...ok?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I checked that web, looks way cheaper. but I could not find which I needed. i dont know the sizes or measurements.

Thanks for your inputs.

this kinda sucks, im so tight with money right now and need rod bolts and head bolts. How could a machine shop mess that up anyway? if i were to take him a bolt from the DueceDuece and say make me 10 copies with grade 12. what could go wrong. When i see the price of ARP i feel like im just paying for the name.


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Its not about what can possibly go wrong, its just about quality. Believe me when i tell you....you're not just paying for the name from ARP. They are the best for a reason.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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there is a reason arp has no real competition.. they are the best
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