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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Default B16a build up with out pulling out the hole engine.

I want to gain the most hp out of my engine with out building up the block. What can I do to my head without Blowing my engine. Whats the most hp I can gain? I will be builing up the block later. But not now.

I was thinking to go with:
stage 2 cams & valves (or is this to much for a stuck the block?)
Edelbrock Performer X Intake
Edelbrock Fuel rail
Edelbrock 75mm TB
ligh fly wheel
chip???

what Do you guys think?

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Uhh wrong forum buddy.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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lol yeah man wrong forum
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MHBb16CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to gain the most hp out of my engine with out building up the block. What can I do to my head without Blowing my engine. Whats the most hp I can gain? I will be builing up the block later. But not now.

I was thinking to go with:
stage 2 cams & valves (or is this to much for a stuck the block?)
Edelbrock Performer X Intake
Edelbrock Fuel rail
Edelbrock 75mm TB
ligh fly wheel
chip???

what Do you guys think?

Thanks
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Wrong forum, but constructively:

The cams would put a lot of power in the top end and you'd be able to make more power longer, and to do this safely, you'd need upgraded valve springs, retainers, and valves. Some decent tuning would help balance the fuel ratio to even it out.

You can get a better intake and throttle body elsewhere, check around. Blox and BDL come to mind, but i'm not sure.

Lightened flywheel is always good. Reducing mass is important. But there are 2 things you need to think of. Lighter flywheel+stronger clutch= really shitty daily driver, it would be uncomfortable to say the least. Second, if you cheap out and just shave down the stock one, it won't be as strong as it used to be, which could be bad...mkay?

Tuning 'chips' are for the most part worthless. There are a few companies that do good work, that allow you to computer tune your own setup. Don't look for a 'one size fits all' type, those are crap.

I'd just look for a B20 block and put the damned head on. B16's a torqueless wonder. With your mods you'd be making more power high up, but you'd want more low end grunt, unless you like astronomical rev ranges with bad low end power.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Sorry. I'm new.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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moved.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Go with:
Skunk2 Stage 1 cams
Skunk2 Tuner Series Valve Springs
Edelbrock Performer X Intake
Stock Fuel Rail
Professional Products 65mm TB
ClutchMasters/Fidanza Flywheel I drive on one every day don't trust the hype.
Exedy Stage 1 clutch
3" Intake

Get it tuned don't play with universal chips. They can get you by but can hurt your engine or make it run like poo.

Is what I think?

A B20-Vtec will walk all over this setup, but unless the proper care isn't taken it will not last. Stick around the All-Motor forum a while and read before you make any decisions.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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You could also check out the OmniPower DVD since your a beginner it will be a good learning experience on building a motor in the car.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Dont forget about a good header.

You could get away really easily by building a head and have some nice results for a 'beginner'. We all start somewhere, and putting some new valvetrain in a b16 along with a few fuels mods (injectors, rail, TB, most importantly a tune) would be a great beginner project IMO. Dont worry about valves. Worry about valve springs and retainers. Your valves are fine for a stock bottom end motor.


So add a header and a tune to your list and I think your well on yoru way. Good luck!
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Got a sleeved b20 for sale if your serious about going all motor.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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well, I already have DC 4-2-1 header going to 2.5 pipe. & ram air intake.
so stage 2 is safe with a stock block?

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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http://www.intertune.tv

everything you need to do to a B16 to get great results.

hope this helps,

mike
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MHBb16CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so stage 2 is safe with a stock block?

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It would work with after market VALVE SPRINGS, but its not about if it is safe or not. A stage 2 cam would have to be revved much higher, giving you poor results in the end.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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so what kinda of cams, valve springs, retainers, and valves should I buy?
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