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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Default Just swapped, throwing codes HELP! VIDEO inside

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deadline &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are those the codes I'm throwing?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Looks like you're throwing codes 7 and 14 to me. TPS and IAC
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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I second, Looks like 7 and 14.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Anyone else? Or how do I fix those codes? Can I drive with these codes?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Ok after searching I think I figure out 1 of CEL's...Mixed up the IAT plug with the IAC, so now I'm missing the IAT plug. Since I'm using the Si harness the IAT plug is supposed to go into the intake, as the GSR is a screw type that goes into the IM runners.

Am I right so far?

If so, I tried pluging the Si IAT into the GSR but it doesn't fit. I still have the GSR harness, If what I said is right, then could I just cut and splice the IAT plug off the GSR harness and connect it to the Si harness?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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there cel has somthing to do with these two things ? change it out ?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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I would double check where the pins for those wires are for that particular ecu you are running and compare them to where they are at the ecu plugs.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrewMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would double check where the pins for those wires are for that particular ecu you are running and compare them to where they are at the ecu plugs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you know which ones they are?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Could I drive fine with those codes on?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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No you cant drive with these codes. Your start off will be really bad and it would take high rpms to get started. So dont do it.

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Its the big sensor thats on the back of the manifold, but you see the other thing he squared, thats your map. The TPS is the one directly to the right of the IAC. Check that out. Might be that you happened to mix up the sensor plug with the MAP so might want to try that as well. There should be a little marking on the plug that tells you which one goes where by the angle of the marking (white mark). For the IAC just find the correct plug for the IAC.
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if he mixed up the plugs there is the chance he fried something also.

edit: do you know what OBD the ecu is?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No you cant drive with these codes. Your start off will be really bad and it would take high rpms to get started. So dont do it.

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Its the big sensor thats on the back of the manifold, but you see the other thing he squared, thats your map. The TPS is the one directly to the right of the IAC. Check that out. Might be that you happened to mix up the sensor plug with the MAP so might want to try that as well. There should be a little marking on the plug that tells you which one goes where by the angle of the marking (white mark). For the IAC just find the correct plug for the IAC. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Someone else told me I could've mixed up the MAP sensor and teh TPS but I checked the wires on the helms and they're right. And yeah my car didn't want to idle right and wanted to die.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrewMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if he mixed up the plugs there is the chance he fried something also. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Only time something gets fired is with the IAC and EVAP switched, then the ecu will smoke and a resistor will pop, have you seen that happen yet? If not then it probably wont. MAP and TPS switching doesnt fry anything but your ego.

Swap TPS sensors with your stock motor.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Only time something gets fired is with the IAC and EVAP switched, then the ecu will smoke and a resistor will pop, have you seen that happen yet? If not then it probably wont. MAP and TPS switching doesnt fry anything but your ego.

Swap TPS sensors with your stock motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is there a difference on the obd2 dseries?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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From what ive seen all the 92-00 Civic/Integra/Prelude TPS and MAP sensors (the ones that go on the TB) are the same.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what ive seen all the 92-00 Civic/Integra/Prelude TPS and MAP sensors (the ones that go on the TB) are the same. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh ok. How the hell do you take these off, there are rivets holding them in?

Edit: nvm searched and found it.

Would I need to turn on the car to see if it worked or not?


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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Bumpp what should I do about the IAT now? Do I need two or what?

Anyone know what color the 99-00 Si IAC plug wires are? Are they the same as the GSR?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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use a hacksaw blade and cut a grove in the middle of the rivet and take it out with a flat head screw driver. sounds alot easier than it is but thats how i do it then i got to home depot and get a screw that matches the threads when you replace the tps...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iUsedToBeFast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use a hacksaw blade and cut a grove in the middle of the rivet and take it out with a flat head screw driver. sounds alot easier than it is but thats how i do it then i got to home depot and get a screw that matches the threads when you replace the tps...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just hit the washer at an angle and got it loose enough to unscrew by hand, just found some extra screws around teh garage
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DrewMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if he mixed up the plugs there is the chance he fried something also.

edit: do you know what OBD the ecu is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got from Phearable, supposed to be an OBD1 ECU chipped for my swap.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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K, I swapped my TPS sensor off the dseries (hope that'll fix it). My old intake off the stock motor has the plug for the IAT sensor, luckly I kept it... What do I do about the one on the IM then?

Gotta hack the tube up to fit, does Walmart sell couplers? I need one for the TB to the intake.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Is there anything I need to set on TPS? I remember seeing something about the voltage but didn't see how to adjust it or read the voltage?
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put it on with NORMAL phillips screws, in case you need to take it off again.

Don't tighten it all the way down.

Get out a multimeter and check the voltage. with KEY On, throttle closed it should be .5 volts, with throttle OPEN it should be 4.5-5 volts.

Once your in those prarameters, tighten screws, done......</TD></TR></TABLE>

Searched and people said to set/adjust the voltage by using a multimeter? Never used a multimeter/volatgemeter to set it before, only read. How do I do it?
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