Need help, tuner really did a number on me this time :( 266whp/13psi/sc61

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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Default Need help, tuner really did a number on me this time :( 266whp/14psi/sc61

Setup:
stock b18c1 with 6153miles on it (fresh rebuild)
3mm headgasket
victor x intake manifold
ramhorn manifold
precision SC6152S (brand new)
precision 1000cc's
3" dp with 3"cat with full 3"exhaust no muffler
ctr cams
motorola map sensor

Well now that I have that out the way this is what my dyno graph used to look like when I had a turbonetics t3t4ob .48a/r stage 2 wheel on dsm injectors on 14psi

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....8eeqo


Turns out my turbo was going bad so I decided to upgrade it to a sc61 along with the injectors. This is what my NEW tune dyno graph looks like now....this is on 14psi

http://www.we-todd-did-racing....g6p2f



http://www.we-todd-did-racing....1mytu


Also a/f ratios all over the place ranging from 12.5:1 down to 10:1 at 7000rpms. This was on 14psi!!!!! When I had my t3t4 i was on 14psi. When the tuner tuned it he(I saw this with my own two eyes) copy and pasted values from some other customers maps. Not once did I see him(and i was watching like a hawk) tune any cell alone. But the worst part is now my car will not idle. Cold, warm, or even after its' been driven as soon as I stop it dies. It surges idle for about 15secs then dies. Also anything below 4krpms and anything less then half throttle the car bucks/back fires a little bit. Basically if I want to drive it anywhere I have to be 50%+ throttle and must be accelerating. If I try to maintain speed car will make popping noises unless it's accelerating or decelerating. This was tuned on hondata stage 2b. I went into the dyno with my car running PERFECTLY on crome. But he said he doesn't tune on crome because it blows to many motors. Now I should have said to myself, leave now!..but I didn't and now my car runs like crap. This is the 3rd dyno shop in a row now that has messed up on my tune. Also he said the reason the power drops off like that is because my clutch is bad. Clutch has 800miles on it, I know for a fact my clutch not the problem.


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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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who the hell tuned that??? Your AFs look like a roller coaster....
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Time for a new tune
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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The tuner works at the shop.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The tuner works at the shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well there's your problem....a blind 6 year old could do a better job
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Holy torque drop batman!

Um, I did better after tuning my own car for the first time for 30 minutes on the street.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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damn, that is...damn i dont even know the words for this
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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You probably even paid to didnt you?
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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you're a fool for paying for a tune that horrible.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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What part of va do you live in ?
I should move out there lol
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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weak
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spectacle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you're a fool for paying for a tune that horrible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I didn't, soon as I saw the torque drop like it did I told them to stop. I left very shortly after.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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the original afr's from dyno inc. area all over the place and i dont know what is up with brauning's tune . Even with the crappy afr's on the old setup the torque curve didn't drop like that. Could be something wrong with the setup or something is big time off in the tune.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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hmm....i would like to THINK that with a graph that looks that bad there is a mechanical problem not just a problem in the tune. im fairly close to brauning (with in a half hour) send me a copy of your map and i'll check it out to see whats up with it. im a hondata dealer with a inground dynojet as well.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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was he using rom editor 3 or 4. i did a gsr this week that made 320whp at 9psi spring pressure with a very similar set up. something is not right at all. shoot me a pm or give me a call i'm curious to see whats going on 301 290 0330
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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have you talked to your tuner? i would talk to him first and see whats up and possibly find a new one. though you cant always blame the tuner first but sometimes you can.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Update on my car, got my car tuned at tempest today. Car made 305whp on 9psi with a boost leak, don't know where yet. Car runs smoother then ever, big thanks to the Tempest racing.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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H-T to the rescue Turbo-charged
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Update on my car, got my car tuned at tempest today. Car made 305whp on 9psi with a boost leak, don't know where yet. Car runs smoother then ever, big thanks to the Tempest racing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
finally a better tune tempest
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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My basemap had a more consistent AF curve than that. lol

Glad you had it re-tuned.
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