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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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With all the info here on h-t, i pieced together my own turbo kit for my GSR. I'm pretty happy with the results.

Garrett T3 turbo
turbonetics wastegate
Greddy Type RS bov
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dsm 450 injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump
log manifold
fast-turbo oil line kit
tuned with Uberdata

219 @ 5 psi


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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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nice numbers....it should be a fun setup, but it isn't going to take long until you're begging it for more power....
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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cool

yeah your going to want more soon haha

boost=addicting
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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seems like your running kinda lean
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 8herout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seems like your running kinda lean</TD></TR></TABLE>

No **** dude. You are way lean!!

12.5:1 while in boost is not such a good idea.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Since when?

I remember people saying it's what you want 12.5:1 and you can see that it gets richer on the top.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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No **** dude. You are way lean!!

12.5:1 while in boost is not such a good idea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

12.5 isn't bad at all. It does look like he's at 13.0:1 though and you should richen that up a little.

Why didn't you go for a little more power?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wicked2night &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since when?

I remember people saying it's what you want 12.5:1 and you can see that it gets richer on the top.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah back in 2000 when the concepts of conservative timing and running rich for safety/longevity didn't exist yet.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Yeah back in 2000 when the concepts of conservative timing and running rich for safety/longevity didn't exist yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, i do agree that the tune is a little on the lean side, but it would be "ok" to have in a dyno condition, where everything is monitored. It is a good bit lean especially in spool up and lower RPM, i would be a little concerned with that. I wouldn't let a car leave the dyno that lean.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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how are the dsm injectors? People kept telling me not to get them because it will make your car run like **** but I would also talk to people who said they work fine. Does the car idle like stock?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how are the dsm injectors? People kept telling me not to get them because it will make your car run like **** but I would also talk to people who said they work fine. Does the car idle like stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who have you been talking to??

Tons of people use DSM 450s in hondas with no problems. I've used them in three personal turbo setups and never had a problem with them.

In fact, I don't think I know anyone that has had a problem getting them to work.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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my dsm injectors would cause some trouble on startup ans slighltly lean at part throttle. i didnt think anything of it though because the car ran fine, and i thought there is differences from having a stock tune with a turbo tune. things will run different for sure. but then i read a post somewhere that dsm injector causes the startup troubles and part throttle leanness. and those were exactly what i had happening.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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why only 5lbs on a GSR? Turn up the boost to 10lbs and retune! and that tune is deff on a the lean side.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">12.5 isn't bad at all. It does look like he's at 13.0:1 though and you should richen that up a little.

Why didn't you go for a little more power? </TD></TR></TABLE>

+1

12.5:1 is fine for 5lbs - 6lbs. Looking harder is actually looks like 13:1 - 12.8:1 at the beginning, 12.5:1 in areas, 12.3:1 in areas and 12:1 up top. And why didnt you go for more power ?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And why didnt you go for more power ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm assuming since he dynoed @ 5psi, that he's running off the wastegate spring.

I wonder how quick that T3 spools at?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm assuming since he dynoed @ 5psi, that he's running off the wastegate spring. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what friends are for. Let you borrow their boost controller
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's what friends are for. Let you borrow their boost controller </TD></TR></TABLE>

But when they don't return it and instead sell it out from under you, are they still your friends?

A simple $50 MBC would work as well.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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alright right numbers for 5 psi... the motor could handle more with the right tune
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Right now its just street tuned and I just wanted to run 5psi just to be safe for now. The place that did the dyno run, they only know how to use aem, crome, and hondata. I'm using uberdata and they want me to get rid of that so they can use crome.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how are the dsm injectors? People kept telling me not to get them because it will make your car run like **** but I would also talk to people who said they work fine. Does the car idle like stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The dsm injectors are working great. It actually idles better than stock most of the time, but sometimes I'll get fluctuations bet it goes away after doing that a few times.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JmurGSR98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right now its just street tuned and I just wanted to run 5psi just to be safe for now. The place that did the dyno run, they only know how to use aem, crome, and hondata. I'm using uberdata and they want me to get rid of that so they can use crome.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you the one who tuned it? I mean... if they tuned it, they should have just used crome?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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I had someone else tune it, but when i went to the shop to get it dyno'd they tell me after the session that I'm running a little lean. I asked them how much it would cost and when they could do it, they tell me they could have done it while it was on the dyno. So basically, they got me for $75 just for the dyno run and now I'll have to make another appointment and pay $200 an hour, when they could have done it right then and saved me $75. I get paid next week so I'll go back and get it retuned on the dyno and maybe I'll end up with a little higher numbers.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JmurGSR98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had someone else tune it, but when i went to the shop to get it dyno'd they tell me after the session that I'm running a little lean. I asked them how much it would cost and when they could do it, they tell me they could have done it while it was on the dyno. So basically, they got me for $75 just for the dyno run and now I'll have to make another appointment and pay $200 an hour, when they could have done it right then and saved me $75. I get paid next week so I'll go back and get it retuned on the dyno and maybe I'll end up with a little higher numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BAH...just richen up your 5psi column by 4-5% and blast the **** out of it at 5 psi
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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That shouldn't take long to do for a tuner that knows what he's doing, right? So I shouldn't have to be on the dyno no more than an hour?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JmurGSR98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That shouldn't take long to do for a tuner that knows what he's doing, right? So I shouldn't have to be on the dyno no more than an hour?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that's all you need, just take it to someone that knows how to tune, and let them richen it up for you on the current chip you have.

Your just gonna go out and waste too much money. Or what you can do is step on the dyno, and turn that boost up. 5psi just sounds.....well, pansy lol.

if all you tuned for was 5psi then you kind of wasted your money, you should have tuned 10-12 like that you would have saved money, time, and when you got tired of 5psi you could have ran anything from 5-10/12psi.

To each his own though
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