ok so i swaped my y7 head for a y8 head still using the y7 block and put in the p2p ecu and did the wiring for vtec and i can hear vtec kick in but my friend tells me u need to drill a hole in the oil pan and put a hose from the drill hole to the head for vtec to work is this true

 

tell him he's a ******* idiot.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tell him he's a ******* idiot. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

WTF, its time for a new friend. What does he think vtec is a turbo or something?

 

I love the way everybody jumps on him calling him an idiot and everything...his thinking is 100% normal.

I'm pretty sure the Y7/8 mini-me doesn't require the oil passage though.

He's thinking of an LS/VTEC setup though. Which is basically a B series mini-me, and DOES require the oil lines to be tapped into the <U>PAN</u> (Not for somebody [me] to confuse with "trans" ).

In the B7/Z6 mini-me swap you have to pull the oil passage plug...though I don't think you have to do anything for the Y7/Y8 mini-me.

Sorry I can't give you more exact info, I've never done a 6th gen (96-00) mini-me swap. Though I do know for the B7/Z6 mini-me (5th gen, 92-95) there's a lil plug that's already hooked up for oil that's blocked off on the B7 block, you just pop that out and the oil flows freely.

Though to the guy who was comparing it to turbo and making fun of him, etc. etc. - VTEC does require an oil feed. LS/V require it b/c of the VTEC, as do the 5th gen civics...iono about the 6th gen - never did a 6th gen mini-me swap .


Modified by Syndacate at 11:36 AM 3/9/2007

 

True, the friend is thinking somewhat logical. Ls/vtec requires tapping.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the way everybody jumps on him calling him an idiot and everything...his thinking is 100% normal.

I'm pretty sure the Y7/8 mini-me doesn't require the oil passage though.

He's thinking of an LS/VTEC setup though. Which is basically a B series mini-me, and DOES require the oil lines to be tapped into the trans.

In the B7/Z6 mini-me swap you have to pull the oil passage plug...though I don't think you have to do anything for the Y7/Y8 mini-me.

Sorry I can't give you more exact info, I've never done a 6th gen (96-00) mini-me swap. Though I do know for the B7/Z6 mini-me (5th gen, 92-95) there's a lil plug that's already hooked up for oil that's blocked off on the B7 block, you just pop that out and the oil flows freely.

Though to the guy who was comparing it to turbo and making fun of him, etc. etc. - VTEC does require an oil feed. LS/V require it b/c of the VTEC, as do the 5th gen civics...iono about the 6th gen - never did a 6th gen mini-me swap .</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats what I meant. You don't need to tap anything for a d-series mini-me.

He might have logical thinking, but he's still spreading incorrect information, if the OP can hear his vtec (which is about all that you get with d-series vtec), then it obviously is working correctly, his friend shouldn't be putting any doubt in his mind.

 

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Thats what I meant. You don't need to tap anything for a d-series mini-me.

He might have logical thinking, but he's still spreading incorrect information, if the OP can hear his vtec (which is about all that you get with d-series vtec), then it obviously is working correctly, his friend shouldn't be putting any doubt in his mind.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good points.

I've only did 5th gen mini-mes in which you put a screw into that little oil feed hole which is blocked off and pop it out w/ a pair of needle nose pliers.

What about the 6th gen, they don't have the oil feed plug in the Y7's, do they? Where do they obtain their oil? (Sorry @ OP, not trying to thread jack)

 

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What about the 6th gen, they don't have the oil feed plug in the Y7's, do they? Where do they obtain their oil? (Sorry @ OP, not trying to thread jack) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeahh what he said^^^.

 

i think the y7 and y8 do have that oil passage.

its just not blocked off on the y7 like it is on the d15x's

 

so vtec isnt turbo...

 

Yes i was lookin into doing that swap earlyer Ls/Vtec and def recall seeing thats u need the oil line ... people hate on here way 2 much ... always jump 2 conclusions ... its a/l good tho bro u def shoudl be strait ...being as u dun have an Ls/Vtec swap ...

 

Thats for the B series (LS/VTEC, B20/VTEC) setups

 

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Though to the guy who was comparing it to turbo and making fun of him, etc. etc. - VTEC does require an oil feed. LS/V require it b/c of the VTEC, as do the 5th gen civics...iono about the 6th gen - never did a 6th gen mini-me swap .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know they require an oil feed, but I never knew you drilled and fed it from the oil pan. Like you mentioned I thought there were existing plug holes for this.

 

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I know they require an oil feed, but I never knew you drilled and fed it from the oil pan. Like you mentioned I thought there were existing plug holes for this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I know there is in 5th gen civics, I'm not sure about 6th gen civics - never seen a Y7 w/ the head off nor a Y7/Y8 mini-me in real life.

Naw, the feed is only for the LS/V and turbo supply lines - but I was j/w about 6th gen civics - if anybody knew if it had the oil passage plug like the B7 blocks do?

 

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He's thinking of an LS/VTEC setup though. Which is basically a B series mini-me, and DOES require the oil lines to be tapped into the trans. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is "trans" supposed to be short for transmission.

 

In an lsvtec you need a supply of oil pressure to the head. I dont recall there being that much oil pressure in a transmission.

 

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Is "trans" supposed to be short for transmission. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LoL

No, it's short for "pan" actually

My mind's not where it should be . My mistake & edited - thx for the catch.

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its just not blocked off on the y7 like it is on the d15x's</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ah you answered my Q and I didn't even notice.

Alright, I got ya. Thanks a bunch !! x3

 

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LoL

No, it's short for "pan" actually

My mind's not where it should be .
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Thats even worse. What are you supposed to accomplish by draining your motor's pressurized oil into the the oil pan? Vtec cannot engage without sufficient oil pressure. That is why you need to run an oil line from the block (most commonely taken from the oil pressure sending unit's location) to the vtec head. The head needs extra oil pressure, not the oil pan.

 

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Thats even worse. What are you supposed to accomplish by draining your motor's pressurized oil into the the oil pan? Vtec cannot engage without sufficient oil pressure. That is why you need to run an oil line from the block (most commonely taken from the oil pressure sending unit's location) to the vtec head. The head needs extra oil pressure, not the oil pan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, I see, I'll remember this for the LS/V I'll never build.

I thought it was a line from the pan to the head - much like turbo lines. Though I suppose from the block like VTEC oil system works on the D series motors (just w/o the hose since they have the passage) makes more sense.

Thanks for the correction on that. Never really studied LS/V builds, the cost of a LS/V kit was all O.O to me unless you're doing a complete motor build .

Appreciated that correction .

 

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Oh, I see, I'll remember this for the LS/V I'll never build.

I thought it was a line from the pan to the head - much like turbo lines. Though I suppose from the block like VTEC oil system works on the D series motors (just w/o the hose since they have the passage) makes more sense.

Thanks for the correction on that. Never really studied LS/V builds, the cost of a LS/V kit was all O.O to me unless you're doing a complete motor build .

Appreciated that correction .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Glad to clear things up... thats definitly one oil line you dont want to run unless you have a turbo on your car... to drain the oil that is used to lubricate the turbo. Yes its a little simpler on single cams, but on B-series (crvtec and lsvtec) that oil line is required to gain enough oil pressure for vtec to engage.

 

alrite thanks for the help..