Light turbo set-up help?
So I searched a decent amount and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. If anyone knows of links that would help, I'd love to read them
I'm looking to get some more power out of my 88' Civic Wagon. AKA: D15B2. I'm doing the low budget college kid thing and was wondering, if a small, low boost, turbo set-up would be possible. I know some cars can do this without problems and then you don't need engine management and intercooler and all that only running like 5psi. Just a little extra power when you need to get up and go. Does this kinda low-boost set-up work well with hondas, and would it be worth it for the power? How much gain would this give? I'm hoping more than whatever engine will easily drop into my car...
Also, I don't like how quickly I have to shift pulling away from a stop and being over 3000rpm only doing 70mph on the hwy. I can change transmissions with other models, correct? Which one would you guys recommend to be closer to 75mph at 3000rpm. Thanks alot. I really like my car and I can't wait to start working on it this spring, but I'm new to the honda thing.
Modified by Arethereanynamesleft at 10:27 PM 2/27/2007
Modified by Arethereanynamesleft at 10:28 PM 2/27/2007
I'm looking to get some more power out of my 88' Civic Wagon. AKA: D15B2. I'm doing the low budget college kid thing and was wondering, if a small, low boost, turbo set-up would be possible. I know some cars can do this without problems and then you don't need engine management and intercooler and all that only running like 5psi. Just a little extra power when you need to get up and go. Does this kinda low-boost set-up work well with hondas, and would it be worth it for the power? How much gain would this give? I'm hoping more than whatever engine will easily drop into my car...
Also, I don't like how quickly I have to shift pulling away from a stop and being over 3000rpm only doing 70mph on the hwy. I can change transmissions with other models, correct? Which one would you guys recommend to be closer to 75mph at 3000rpm. Thanks alot. I really like my car and I can't wait to start working on it this spring, but I'm new to the honda thing.
Modified by Arethereanynamesleft at 10:27 PM 2/27/2007
Modified by Arethereanynamesleft at 10:28 PM 2/27/2007
Read http://www.homemadeturbo.com/ LOTS and LOTS then when you get tired of reading read somemore... Even with low boost you still need fuel/ignition management!! Dont be fooled, Look into obd 0 to 1 conversions and chipped ecus... Its all out there for you to learn
heres a better in sight:
usually with honda's unless you want a gas saver, you never want lower rpm's with faster higher speeds.. honda's are known for there high reving engines. and if thing about speed. most honda fans here would want to rev higher..
but on the flip side, transmissions that would work great for you would be the civic lx 4dr 88-91. they are not as high as the si civics and crxs. si model transmissions are around 65-70 mph aroound 3200-3500k rpm. lx is about 500 rpm lower. and then there is the dx. which is right around what you wanted. 75 mph around 3k. you have to get a 88-89 transmission to use your same clutch kit. 90-91 even though they have the same gear ratio's, the clutch shaft is bigger. there fore your clutch disc wont fit. you can always just swap out the disc. the pressure plate is the same.
as far as going turbo, there is the fmu, which is directed and rounted/ controlled by vacuum. it up's you're fuel pressure auto matically with the increased number of boost. with that said, your fuel pump should be swapped out for something more aggressive. 255 walbro is the big known fuel pump for mostly honda's. they go for about 100 bucks on ebay. you can safely boost right around 6-8 psi for life of the engine with out any modifications done to the block or head. 10-15 psi has been seen before with very impressive numbers, but that gets into a little more money than your typical budjet build. and with 10-15 psi you'll need to have it tuned to be running safe and more effective. with or with out the innner cooler would be up to you. of course gains of about 15-30% would be a pretty big number WITH an inner cooler..
if you are planning to run the same head and block from an 88, all you should need is the fmu, fuel pump, and injectors from a dsm ( eclipse turbo ) blue top injectors. they are 450cc. good for about 300 horse power. let alone the turbo, blow off valve, waste gate, and with or with out the innercooler... but i highly suggest you run with one. big difference..
a good way to start is get an hr exhaust maifold from a crx hf. have that predilled to fit the turbo of an early automatice tdo4h 15g eclipse. stainless lines for oil from home depot. and you should be good from there.. i gave you some of the key points here. but you would have to do more researching, as i dont feel like typing up a novel. once again like the guys said above, check out that web site. backyardturbos or something like that.. or how to make your own.... good luck..
6-8 psi you should be around 160-200 horse power
8-10 psi you should be around 200-240 horse power
10-15 psi you should be around 240-275 horse power
i was right around 235. spent about $2500.
usually with honda's unless you want a gas saver, you never want lower rpm's with faster higher speeds.. honda's are known for there high reving engines. and if thing about speed. most honda fans here would want to rev higher..
but on the flip side, transmissions that would work great for you would be the civic lx 4dr 88-91. they are not as high as the si civics and crxs. si model transmissions are around 65-70 mph aroound 3200-3500k rpm. lx is about 500 rpm lower. and then there is the dx. which is right around what you wanted. 75 mph around 3k. you have to get a 88-89 transmission to use your same clutch kit. 90-91 even though they have the same gear ratio's, the clutch shaft is bigger. there fore your clutch disc wont fit. you can always just swap out the disc. the pressure plate is the same.
as far as going turbo, there is the fmu, which is directed and rounted/ controlled by vacuum. it up's you're fuel pressure auto matically with the increased number of boost. with that said, your fuel pump should be swapped out for something more aggressive. 255 walbro is the big known fuel pump for mostly honda's. they go for about 100 bucks on ebay. you can safely boost right around 6-8 psi for life of the engine with out any modifications done to the block or head. 10-15 psi has been seen before with very impressive numbers, but that gets into a little more money than your typical budjet build. and with 10-15 psi you'll need to have it tuned to be running safe and more effective. with or with out the innner cooler would be up to you. of course gains of about 15-30% would be a pretty big number WITH an inner cooler..
if you are planning to run the same head and block from an 88, all you should need is the fmu, fuel pump, and injectors from a dsm ( eclipse turbo ) blue top injectors. they are 450cc. good for about 300 horse power. let alone the turbo, blow off valve, waste gate, and with or with out the innercooler... but i highly suggest you run with one. big difference..
a good way to start is get an hr exhaust maifold from a crx hf. have that predilled to fit the turbo of an early automatice tdo4h 15g eclipse. stainless lines for oil from home depot. and you should be good from there.. i gave you some of the key points here. but you would have to do more researching, as i dont feel like typing up a novel. once again like the guys said above, check out that web site. backyardturbos or something like that.. or how to make your own.... good luck..
6-8 psi you should be around 160-200 horse power
8-10 psi you should be around 200-240 horse power
10-15 psi you should be around 240-275 horse power
i was right around 235. spent about $2500.
Thanks jdm civic turbo! That was exactly the kind of answer I was hoping to get. Not a novel, but letting me know if it was doable. Thank you for your time and answer. And thanks to all of you for the website. Good stuff there.
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