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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bserious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's stopping the front heims joints from moving side to side?
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There are snap rings on either side of the heim joints.
</TD></TR></TABLE>There are snap rings on either side of the heim joints.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revolt_allmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aren't you supposed to include an arm that locates the axle laterally as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There isn't one if i understand your question correctly.
There isn't one if i understand your question correctly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revolt_allmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aren't you supposed to include an arm that locates the axle laterally as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The shocks will do that. It shouldn't be a problem just going straight.
The shocks will do that. It shouldn't be a problem just going straight.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakaccident »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The shocks will do that. It shouldn't be a problem just going straight. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The shocks won t help one bit laterally but the axle is square and the diagonal tubes will prevent the axle from swaying.
The shocks will do that. It shouldn't be a problem just going straight. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The shocks won t help one bit laterally but the axle is square and the diagonal tubes will prevent the axle from swaying.
If I am understanding the picture correctly, it looks like the actual pivot "mounts" are pressed into the rod end and can't move laterally (side to side). I think what he was referring to is there isn't any panhard bar. Usually if you are just using trailing arms with no panhard lateral location bar you mount the trailing arms at a diagonal from the body to the axle--this forms a triangle and will effectively prevent lateral movement. The shocks don't add one iota of location--all they do is damp. It looks like the only thing preventing side to side movement is the press fit between the mounting pivots and the rod ends. I would add some sort of panhard bar or cross bar.
I see that they aren't pressed in and are actually held in by snap rings. I would still look into adding a panhard bar. If those snap rings broke when you had to correct going down the track the car would get very squirrely as the axle would be able to move 2"-3" before the rod ends slid and hit the mounting bolts.
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 1:57 PM 2/26/2007
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 1:59 PM 2/26/2007
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 2:00 PM 2/26/2007
I see that they aren't pressed in and are actually held in by snap rings. I would still look into adding a panhard bar. If those snap rings broke when you had to correct going down the track the car would get very squirrely as the axle would be able to move 2"-3" before the rod ends slid and hit the mounting bolts.
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 1:57 PM 2/26/2007
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 1:59 PM 2/26/2007
Modified by d16dcoe45 at 2:00 PM 2/26/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What exactly do you mean by laterally? MS Paint anyone? lol
bears, does it use stock hubs and wheel bearings? Or are those custom?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes please, kinda confused about how all this is gonna bolt up...
bears, does it use stock hubs and wheel bearings? Or are those custom?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes please, kinda confused about how all this is gonna bolt up...
This is how I did one. Used angle iron and spacers to capture the bearing.

edit: Uses the same 2 bolts as in bearsek's piece and a long bolt through the bearing and spacers. None of which were drawn.

edit: Uses the same 2 bolts as in bearsek's piece and a long bolt through the bearing and spacers. None of which were drawn.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d16dcoe45 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I am understanding the picture correctly, it looks like the actual pivot "mounts" are pressed into the rod end and can't move laterally (side to side). I think what he was referring to is there isn't any panhard bar. Usually if you are just using trailing arms with no panhard lateral location bar you mount the trailing arms at a diagonal from the body to the axle--this forms a triangle and will effectively prevent lateral movement. The shocks don't add one iota of location--all they do is damp. It looks like the only thing preventing side to side movement is the press fit between the mounting pivots and the rod ends. I would add some sort of panhard bar or cross bar.
I see that they aren't pressed in and are actually held in by snap rings. I would still look into adding a panhard bar. If those snap rings broke when you had to correct going down the track the car would get very squirrely as the axle would be able to move 2"-3" before the rod ends slid and hit the mounting bolts.
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Yeah, I didn't really feel that I needed to explain the words "locate it laterally" to a fabricator, but the post above explained what I meant. "Laterally" meaning "side to side" meaning you need something (panhard bar or whatever) to keep the whole axle in place...
I see that they aren't pressed in and are actually held in by snap rings. I would still look into adding a panhard bar. If those snap rings broke when you had to correct going down the track the car would get very squirrely as the axle would be able to move 2"-3" before the rod ends slid and hit the mounting bolts.
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Yeah, I didn't really feel that I needed to explain the words "locate it laterally" to a fabricator, but the post above explained what I meant. "Laterally" meaning "side to side" meaning you need something (panhard bar or whatever) to keep the whole axle in place...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revolt_allmotor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
"Laterally" meaning "side to side" meaning you need something (panhard bar or whatever) to keep the whole axle in place...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutely correct.
"Laterally" meaning "side to side" meaning you need something (panhard bar or whatever) to keep the whole axle in place...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Absolutely correct.
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