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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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how much horse power can i expect to get out of an all motor build of a d16z6 engine ?


and what would i have to do to get that power ?

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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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100-200whp


you need a lot of work


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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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It depends on what you do and how much you're willing to spend.
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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181.5 and spend time and money.
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I will try to rise to your challenge, sir. Give me a bit.
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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well i really dont know where to start ..nver done this before .. this is also for future reference ..i just want to get an idea
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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What are your goals?
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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goals... i mean id like to get the Z6 up to about, i dont know 200 whp and the boost it if possible
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Just curious as to why you would not (assuming your not) consider a simple b series build up for 200whp?
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCJDM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">goals... i mean id like to get the Z6 up to about, i dont know 200 whp and the boost it if possible </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you build it for NA purposes then why would you boost it? If you plan to boost, why not ask these questions in the FI forum?
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">181.5 and spend time and money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How does this look?

D16Z6 200bhp / 180whp and 150wtq / 135wtq. (assuming 10% drive train loss)

Bore = 78mm (1720cc / 105cid)
Stroke = 90mm
Compression = 11.5:1
Fuel PPH = 94.89
BSFC = .474
TE = 28.2%
SCFM@6500 = 197.48 (estimated peak torque)
SCFM required = 260
VE@peak torque = 1.32
VE@peak horspower = .95 (estimated@9000rpm)
Required torque @9000 = 116.7
BMEP@peak torque = 215.4
BMEP@peak horsepower = 167.6
Injector size = 310cc@81% duty cycle

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KID_DEATH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious as to why you would not (assuming your not) consider a simple b series build up for 200whp?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because my signature only cost me $1500 to build. After some gearing changes and head work the little bastard should be pretty damn quick for the same price as dropping in a stock B16.
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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCJDM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much horse power can i expect to get out of an all motor build of a d16z6 engine ?


and what would i have to do to get that power ?

-thanks-</TD></TR></TABLE>

Theres alot of information on this forum for Z6 builds. Search for them for now to get more info. If you cant find what you're looking for, call me up at the shop or stop by. We're in Glendale, only 10 min from Pasadena.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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cool ill stop buy .. your site doesnt say your adress though .. well i cant find it anyway .

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCJDM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool ill stop buy .. your site doesnt say your adress though .. well i cant find it anyway .

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ya we dont really publish our address on the site. you know how it is out here, Its hard to get work done when people that just want to hang around and ask alot of intake, exhaust and header questions. if you're serious we're glad to sit down with you and talk about what you want to do.

our address is 373 W. Palmer Ave. Unit A Glendale, CA 91204
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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ive decided to just put a turbo on .. but i do need a dyno tuner .. you know anyone ?

or can you ?

thanks though

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCJDM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive decided to just put a turbo on .. but i do need a dyno tuner .. you know anyone ?

or can you ?

thanks though

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to really get the most out of any all motor or turbo setup, you need to fine tune the car for the fuel that its using, for turbo the amount of boost, etc.

We dont really work cars too much, mostly engine building but we do a few installs here and there. We did a basic street motor for a customer awhiel back and we just put a Rev Hard turbo kit on the b18c. Upgraded the fuel injectors and pump, installed a Hondata S300 and dyno tuned at 6lbs and the car made 290hp last Thursday.
We do the turbo install and we work with several dyno tuners on the tuning side after everything is all complete. Just call me and I can refer you to some good people in the area.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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cool man thanks ... i just need to save up work a few extra hours ... ill be in soon enough when im ready ...
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