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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Default JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems?

I might have an opportunity to get a good deal on a Type-S engine and I was wondering if I would be able to use the ECU that comes with it or not. I know that the USDM 5th gen ECU has an immobilizer in it but does the JDM Type-S? If it does, can my H22A1 ECU be used? I've read that a lot of the Type-S's power is made from the tuning of the ECU. So if I used my stock one would I have to use a VAFC to get it to run right?
Are there any other snags I might run into putting this engine in my car?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (vteclude217)

i'd say ue best bet would be to use ure obd1 harness on it and use and obd1 computer on it like a p13 or p28. u will have to swap over a few parts to convert the motor to obd1 though since its obd2. i had to rewire my injectors so i could use the obd2 injectors on the obd1 harness then i had to swap egr valve, coolant neck, knock sensor, basically just use anything from ure stock motor that u need to.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (BB409)

I'll have to use some sort of tuning program with either of those Ecu's to get it to run right or get the same power as if I was using the Type-S ECU, right?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (BB409)

This has nothing to do with your question: I was just going to say to look at the intake manifold to make sure it's a real Type S engine, which does not have an IAB system in the intake manifold. I believe there also isn't a PGM-FI emblem on the Type S intake manifold. I saw a regular H22 on eBay today with a Type S valve cover, being called a "Type S" and with a selling price of $4,000. I feel sorry for the uninformed person who buys that.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (fast_honda)

Thanks for the advice.
I thought I read the Type-S had IAB's and Euro-R's didn't. Also, the picture of the Type-S engine on hmotorsonline.com shows PGM-FI on the IM I believe. I could be wrong about both though.
Does the JDM Type-S get a different engine code or is it just H22A?
In regards to the obdI and obdII, could I just use an adapter harness and not have to change all the sensors?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (vteclude217)

You could be right, my brain is a pos today so I could be wrong on the intake manifold. I am pretty sure that the engine code is still just H22A. As far as the OBD2 harness thing, I don't know.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (fast_honda)

To compensate for my retardedness here is proof that I am wrong and you are right. The Type S has IAB's, this is a real Type S, you can tell from the oem strut bar and intake tube.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (vteclude217)

I got the price on the engine and it's no different than any other place. So I think I'll get an obdI base engine when it comes time and put the difference into the build.
Does the JDM ECU have a speed limiter?
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type-S in a BB1 - ECU problems? (vteclude217)

I personally haven't topped mine out, but it's been said a thousand times that it does have a speed limiter. People have said anywhere from 113-117mph. Note that Honda also mildly ported the head and intake manifold runners on the Type S engine.
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