Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help.
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Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help.
from what i have heard from people in the past is all you need to do is call chp. well they don't help worth a damn. they want you to buy what ever engine install it into your car and bring it to them. if it comes up stolen your fucked. they impound the car, and then do a investigation. Even with a bill of sale it sounds like it does you no good.. So how can you check...
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Re: Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help. (dem0nk1d)
Speaking from experience...
Call your local police department instead of CHP. Tell them that you want to do, and the receptionist should put you through to someone in the auto theft task force. In orange county, its called OCAT.
They will not run the vin over the phone. They will want to come out to see the motor in person and examine the numbers and make sure the vin hasnt been messed with.
Be warned.. if you have nothing to hide, dont worry about it. But when they come out to check it all.. they will want to examinie everything you've got. Anything from whats in your garage to everything about your car. They take notes on a little notepad and ask you where you bought this and that, and from who and when.
Its the 3rd degree.
Call your local police department instead of CHP. Tell them that you want to do, and the receptionist should put you through to someone in the auto theft task force. In orange county, its called OCAT.
They will not run the vin over the phone. They will want to come out to see the motor in person and examine the numbers and make sure the vin hasnt been messed with.
Be warned.. if you have nothing to hide, dont worry about it. But when they come out to check it all.. they will want to examinie everything you've got. Anything from whats in your garage to everything about your car. They take notes on a little notepad and ask you where you bought this and that, and from who and when.
Its the 3rd degree.
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Re: Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help. (MasterKwan)
You know it really sucks that they make it so hard to do. Think about it you are just trying to keep from buying stolen parts and they are going to treat you like everything you have is stolen
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Re: Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help. (instructor74)
^^^^^^^ But if we didn't have these lil f'ers out here stealing everything that is not welded down. (hell they would still try to take it). We would not have these problems. Grab the vin and go to your local law enforcement and explain whats going on.
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Re: Wantting to buy used engine. need vin number checked.. CHP will not help. (wrx-killer-Sti eate
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^^^^^ But if we didn't have these lil f'ers out here stealing everything that is not welded down. (hell they would still try to take it). We would not have these problems..</TD></TR></TABLE>
ohh so true...
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I spent almost 1 full hour getting the run around. Called the chp they said phuq you you have to bring that **** to us... So if you have bought stolen stuff your phuq'd.... I was like ok that's lame.... Then called AAA they said they don't do that. Call DMV. Dmv said oh no we don't do that call CHP or your Local Police Dep. Called the Auto Task force the guy took the vin and then said back on the phone you'll have to contact the Long Beach Police Dept where your going to buy it from... Oh well. I am going to make a Bill Of Sale, and kind of protect my ****. Then throw the motor in my hatch back.... Then figure out the chp deal later.,..
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'Bump anyone' the motor is a 97, and also still has the vin badage attached to the block. JH4DC4351VS010926 Is it okay to take it off?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">'Bump anyone' the motor is a 97, and also still has the vin badage attached to the block. JH4DC4351VS010926 Is it okay to take it off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
do not take it off.....
do not take it off.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am going to make a Bill Of Sale, and kind of protect my ****. Then throw the motor in my hatch back.... Then figure out the chp deal later.,..</TD></TR></TABLE>
FYI, if the engine is stolen property, it's stolen property. A bill of sale isn't likely to do anything more than incriminate you of being in possession of stolen property. And what's everyone's problem here? Don't you want the cops doing everything they can to get these stolen parts? If I was them, and someone called me up because they were concerned about something being stolen, I'd want them to come to the station too. That way, if it turns up stolen, I'd be able to start working on where it came from, etc, and maybe find the theif.
Risk of buying parts I guess. It sucks, but this "why do they have to check so hard, I know that I'm not a thief" **** doesn't help anyone.
FYI, if the engine is stolen property, it's stolen property. A bill of sale isn't likely to do anything more than incriminate you of being in possession of stolen property. And what's everyone's problem here? Don't you want the cops doing everything they can to get these stolen parts? If I was them, and someone called me up because they were concerned about something being stolen, I'd want them to come to the station too. That way, if it turns up stolen, I'd be able to start working on where it came from, etc, and maybe find the theif.
Risk of buying parts I guess. It sucks, but this "why do they have to check so hard, I know that I'm not a thief" **** doesn't help anyone.
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well the whole idea is not to blow your money on stolen stuff. The guy might say it's ligit but then what do you do when it's not. Now in California they will yank your car and crush it.... This is why i made some kind of bill of sale... and then i have a legal binding contract or sale. That says i bought it from this guy/girl.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the whole idea is not to blow your money on stolen stuff. The guy might say it's ligit but then what do you do when it's not. Now in California they will yank your car and crush it.... This is why i made some kind of bill of sale... and then i have a legal binding contract or sale. That says i bought it from this guy/girl.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well I agree that it sucks, and I commend you for being concerned about buying stolen parts, but possession of stolen property is illegal, and that's what you're talking about. My point is, it doesn't matter if you have a "bill of sale" or "signed receipt," if the bill of sale or receipt is for stolen property.
If your drug dealer gives you a reciept, can you possess the weed?
I guess either you have to jump through the hoops that the cops want you to, or you have to worry about your car being found and crushed. I know that sucks, I just want you to understand that this "bill of sale" thing probably won't protect you.
Well I agree that it sucks, and I commend you for being concerned about buying stolen parts, but possession of stolen property is illegal, and that's what you're talking about. My point is, it doesn't matter if you have a "bill of sale" or "signed receipt," if the bill of sale or receipt is for stolen property.
If your drug dealer gives you a reciept, can you possess the weed?
I guess either you have to jump through the hoops that the cops want you to, or you have to worry about your car being found and crushed. I know that sucks, I just want you to understand that this "bill of sale" thing probably won't protect you.
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If your drug dealer gives you a reciept, can you possess the weed?
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Not event the same thing. You KNOW you are buying illegal items "drugs." If you buy something thinking it is legit, then you have nothing to worry about.
A friend of mine had a motor installed in his car. He got stopped, hood popped, and tehy found that the motor was stolen. So he told them who installed in and they went and busted that guy.
It's all BS these days. They don't make it easy. I tried the same thing with my local police dept. They gave me the run around. they said I woudl have to buy it and bring the motor in (yeah bring a 300lbs motor) or have the seller bring it down.
They just want anything that needs to be verified to be by a law inforcement personel so that they can take action immediately.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about carfaxing the number?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Carfax won't tell you ****. A friend ran his EM1 vin that was stolen and never recovered, it didn't say anything about being stolen. Same thing with another car too.
If your drug dealer gives you a reciept, can you possess the weed?
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Not event the same thing. You KNOW you are buying illegal items "drugs." If you buy something thinking it is legit, then you have nothing to worry about.
A friend of mine had a motor installed in his car. He got stopped, hood popped, and tehy found that the motor was stolen. So he told them who installed in and they went and busted that guy.
It's all BS these days. They don't make it easy. I tried the same thing with my local police dept. They gave me the run around. they said I woudl have to buy it and bring the motor in (yeah bring a 300lbs motor) or have the seller bring it down.
They just want anything that needs to be verified to be by a law inforcement personel so that they can take action immediately.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about carfaxing the number?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Carfax won't tell you ****. A friend ran his EM1 vin that was stolen and never recovered, it didn't say anything about being stolen. Same thing with another car too.
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Alright, one more post and I'm done with this thread. All are welcome to respond, and I will read them, but there's no tech here and people aren't listening.
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Not event the same thing. You KNOW you are buying illegal items "drugs." If you buy something thinking it is legit, then you have nothing to worry about.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Strictly speaking, you know you are buying plants. That's it. You can't see the THC. And the purpose of the op's post is that HE DOESN'T KNOW that the motor is legit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by F20Cteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A friend of mine had a motor installed in his car. He got stopped, hood popped, and tehy found that the motor was stolen. So he told them who installed in and they went and busted that guy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's awesome, they got the guy that they really wanted. But that doesn't say anything about your friend's guilt or innocence, whether he was not charged b/c he cooperated, etc.
Watch COPS. Ask a police officer. Look at your local laws. People get caught all the time w/stolen cars, stuff, etc. The first thing out of their mouth? Always: "I didn't know it was stolen!" The first thing out of the cop's mouth? Always: "It doesn't matter."
And in Wisconsin, knowing that something is stolen is not an element of the offense. All that matters is that the property is stolen. So I know my local laws, and they say it doesn't matter whether you know it's stolen or not.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Carfax won't tell you ****. A friend ran his EM1 vin that was stolen and never recovered, it didn't say anything about being stolen. Same thing with another car too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just as I said before.
OP: My whole point here is don't trust the carfax, and don't expect to be protected by any bill of sale or receipt that the seller signs. Research your local laws, and it may end up requiring you to jump through some hoops.
THAT'S ALL. As previsouly stated, I'm moving on...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by F20Cteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not event the same thing. You KNOW you are buying illegal items "drugs." If you buy something thinking it is legit, then you have nothing to worry about.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Strictly speaking, you know you are buying plants. That's it. You can't see the THC. And the purpose of the op's post is that HE DOESN'T KNOW that the motor is legit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by F20Cteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A friend of mine had a motor installed in his car. He got stopped, hood popped, and tehy found that the motor was stolen. So he told them who installed in and they went and busted that guy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's awesome, they got the guy that they really wanted. But that doesn't say anything about your friend's guilt or innocence, whether he was not charged b/c he cooperated, etc.
Watch COPS. Ask a police officer. Look at your local laws. People get caught all the time w/stolen cars, stuff, etc. The first thing out of their mouth? Always: "I didn't know it was stolen!" The first thing out of the cop's mouth? Always: "It doesn't matter."
And in Wisconsin, knowing that something is stolen is not an element of the offense. All that matters is that the property is stolen. So I know my local laws, and they say it doesn't matter whether you know it's stolen or not.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Carfax won't tell you ****. A friend ran his EM1 vin that was stolen and never recovered, it didn't say anything about being stolen. Same thing with another car too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just as I said before.
OP: My whole point here is don't trust the carfax, and don't expect to be protected by any bill of sale or receipt that the seller signs. Research your local laws, and it may end up requiring you to jump through some hoops.
THAT'S ALL. As previsouly stated, I'm moving on...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr92cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Strictly speaking, you know you are buying plants. That's it. You can't see the THC. And the purpose of the op's post is that HE DOESN'T KNOW that the motor is legit.
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That is completed bullshit. You ******* buy marijuana you know it. Besides most states have a personal use violation that is nothing compared to being charged as a dealer.
Buying a motor is different. You could easily fight it with providing info that it is not very easy to check a motors legality. that would hold up in court easily. A bill of sale will protect you. They will be forced to go after the seller.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr92cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's awesome, they got the guy that they really wanted. But that doesn't say anything about your friend's guilt or innocence, whether he was not charged b/c he cooperated, etc.
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Nothing happened to him. He was not charged. He cooperated because he recieved stolen property w/o knowing it. WTF would you not cooperate?
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That is completed bullshit. You ******* buy marijuana you know it. Besides most states have a personal use violation that is nothing compared to being charged as a dealer.
Buying a motor is different. You could easily fight it with providing info that it is not very easy to check a motors legality. that would hold up in court easily. A bill of sale will protect you. They will be forced to go after the seller.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr92cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's awesome, they got the guy that they really wanted. But that doesn't say anything about your friend's guilt or innocence, whether he was not charged b/c he cooperated, etc.
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Nothing happened to him. He was not charged. He cooperated because he recieved stolen property w/o knowing it. WTF would you not cooperate?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Called the Auto Task force the guy took the vin and then said back on the phone you'll have to contact the Long Beach Police Dept where your going to buy it from...</TD></TR></TABLE>
if it's from long beach it's probably stolen lol
if it's from long beach it's probably stolen lol
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