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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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can anyone help me, i have a 1990 honda accord i have noticed that when changing my oil there is no oil in the filter. the car is running great. what is causing this and i do change my oil regularly with synthetic oil.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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your just giving it a chance to drain back. What kind of filter are you using?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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some of those "super cheapo" filters don't have anti drain back valves.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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i'm using fram oil filters, i have always used them but never had this happen.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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fram are *****. almost anything is better.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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also do you have enought oil in the car? friends car did the same thing and he had like no oil
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuShiBoiiii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also do you have enought oil in the car? friends car did the same thing and he had like no oil</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea main thing I would check first. Does your filter look dry and clean?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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the filter doesn't look dry, it looks like some oil has been in the filter, i have 230k miles on my car and it still runs great and the oil pressure is good.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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just use a better filter. Al Honda filters have anti- drainback valves
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross 4107 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just use a better filter...</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you aren't sure about what a better filter is, just buy them from the dealer.

Or, you can buy them online for ~ $4.50 each (or $5.50 after shipping and drain plug washers). OK, so you're adding $2.50 to $3 per oil change, but what you get is better peace of mind.

And kuddos for changing the oil yourself in the first place.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Fram is pretty shitty, but I never had that problem with a fram b4.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bruce Banner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fram is pretty shitty, but I never had that problem with a fram b4.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what fram?

you always hear people talk sh-t about fram without making it clear about what's so bad about them.

just for the record, the lowest/cheapest fram is a flaming pile.

fram's top of the line filter is actually good stuff.

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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what fram?

you always hear people talk sh-t about fram without making it clear about what's so bad about them.

just for the record, the lowest/cheapest fram is a flaming pile.

fram's top of the line filter is actually good stuff.

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Fram even made Honda filters for a long time
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what fram?

you always hear people talk sh-t about fram without making it clear about what's so bad about them.

just for the record, the lowest/cheapest fram is a flaming pile.

fram's top of the line filter is actually good stuff.

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when i was back at tech school, we cut a bunch of filters in half to check them out and Frams had the least filtering agents of all of them. I dont know much about their "higher end filters" from fram but by the time you pay the bigger price for it, you probably could have gotten an oem or more reputable filter ... just my .02
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what fram?

you always hear people talk sh-t about fram without making it clear about what's so bad about them.

just for the record, the lowest/cheapest fram is a flaming pile.

fram's top of the line filter is actually good stuff.

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The higher end Frams have been cut apart and looked at.
You can find the links online.
Even their best is not so great. I've been a long time fram user and eventually swapped out for other types, bosch, K&N and Mobil.
The mobil is far better than a fram.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bruce Banner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've been a long time fram user and eventually swapped out for other types, bosch, K&N and Mobil.
The mobil is far better than a fram.</TD></TR></TABLE>

kool man good info.. i use a mobil one also
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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kool man good info.. i use a mobil one also </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeh the Mobil is $10 after tax, but hands down it really is a good filter.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Hey,

I have a 2000 Civic that I bought a few months ago. When I bought it, I checked the oil level and it was dead on. The last oil changed had been done at a dealer with Honda oil filter.

I went to change the oil today and when I removed the oil filter, it was completely dry. As in I don't think this oil filter has ever seen a drop of oil. I even stuck a rolled up piece of paper towel inside of it and came out dry. Same thing when I stuck my little finger inside where the filter screws into the block.
I haven't had the oil light or "check engine" light on or anything.
The car has been working fine, except that I'm pretty sure that the VTEC system wasn't working (it's an EX Civic, 1.6 VTEC).
Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, they would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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i use to use K&n oil filters, liked them alot,

also mobil 1 filters are good
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScruffyTheJanitor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Fram even made Honda filters for a long time</TD></TR></TABLE>
Less than a year, actually, in the Canada plant.

I've had the chance to cut open brand new filters for comparision, the frams with the hand grip on them are way below the quality of the Honda filter; glued together cardboard with a flimsy flap for a drainback prevention valve.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Well,
I went to look at the used filter, after letting it sit for a couple of hours on my workbench, and I now see a lot of oil sitting in it.

I swear the filter was completely dry to the touch when I removed it.

The car had been sitting for the about 48 hours before the oil was changed and the temperature has been below 50 degrees here the whole time.

So, that could be the same thing that you are noticing. Next time you remove your filter. let it sit somewhere for a while and then see if there's oil in it.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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I am starting to think that about 80% of those who post on this site have no idea what is fact- and what is commonly believed (lie's). Research, test, study, use, and then compare. Only then can a guy truely have an opinion. That is what I do.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Nice!!
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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the reason that I personaly dont like fram, is that I have seen them blow out the back. I have only experiance one oil filter ever blow out, and that was a fram. this completly ceised my friends 350, at the strip. I personaly cant say about there filtering abilitys, but don't trust there duriablity. I have used stp, k&n, and WIX personaly, and personaly like the wix the most, it seemed to catch the most,the oil seemed cleaner then normal at my 3k oil and filter change.
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