so i ran across the old mag of the mid engine RWD del sol from top fuel. and i can not for the life of me figure out how or wat they fabrcated to make the shifting work with the b series shift linkage. all i can find is talk of a Cross mission. can anyone help me out.
heres a link to the link to the atricle
http://www.superstreetonline.c..._sol/

 

id like to know as well.... unless they used some sort of cable shifter b series tranny... but i dont think those exist...

 

They used the AWD CRV tranny. It is cable shifted becuase there is an output shaft that sends power rearward. The bar that shifts other B-series could not be accomodated. The rear diff then will send power to the rear wheels if the fronts are slipping.

All they did there was take out the front axles (block the openings off) and put a regular diff in the rear.


Awesome idea, but the pinion shaft that sends power rearward is very weak. I wonder how much power it could support?


Here is a pic of the tranny shown with the output shaft just behind and below where the driver's side axle would go. You can also see the cable shifted part on top.

 

I dont think they used a regular diff, I believe they used a 2wd crv trans with axlels and just mount it like an old pontiac fiero or an mr2


Modified by eddie_ek at 7:36 AM 1/9/2007

 

it had to be able to hold a decent amout. it was a boosted b series and ran 10's

 

I dont see why the stock b series tranny would be such a big deal? I mean the car itself would have had to have been fabricated quite intensly and im sure that they would've been able to come up with something..

Just off the top of my head with a quick diagram a rod that goes backwards off of the shifter that has a loop on the end that connects to the linkage would do the trick if you could manage to give it clearance on the underbody. The H patter would even remain un altered, Im sure that the shifter wouldn't have the same feel as it does stock but im sure that something could've been created.

 

Nevermind, didn't even bother to check the link.


I thought it was that teg that was used for drifting that I was referring too.


As for the linkage on that car. it could be easily designed to have a cable shifter attached to some linkage to the stock rod.

 

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I thought it was that teg that was used for drifting that I was referring too.

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any pics/ links for that?

 

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It was made by brailleauto for drifting.

Here is a link second one down:
http://www.brailleauto.com/index-1.html

A thread from H-T
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

 

any more info on this

 

I think the best solution would be to adapt a cable shifting system, such as on the f/h/k series, to the b series. Keep the current part at the trans, but adapt it from bitch-pin out to the cable system, and use longer cables.

The other option would be an auto trans. But at that point, I'd rather do what that one Hyundai did in Superstreet, keep the auto trans/motor in the front as well. Nothing beats owning someone with a Hyundai, then literally showing them its a stock motor, auto trans, and no evidence of forced induction.

 

That hyundai had two 300hp motors.

No evidence of forced induction? Dude, the fat wrapped top charge pipe would give it away in a heart beat.


Stil though, the other engine in the back making it run 10sec with no tire chirp. That was ****** awesome.

 

Prototype Racing has done it its simple really.

http://www.prototyperacing.com/parts.htm

 

wtf... that makes a b series tranny to a cable shifter?"??????????


thats ******* bad ***!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by F20Cteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They used the AWD CRV tranny. It is cable shifted becuase there is an output shaft that sends power rearward. The bar that shifts other B-series could not be accomodated. The rear diff then will send power to the rear wheels if the fronts are slipping.

All they did there was take out the front axles (block the openings off) and put a regular diff in the rear.


Awesome idea, but the pinion shaft that sends power rearward is very weak. I wonder how much power it could support?


Here is a pic of the tranny shown with the output shaft just behind and below where the driver's side axle would go. You can also see the cable shifted part on top.

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that seems like a horrible way to do it. I am sure that they could have made some sort of lever system if they spend 6-7 hours extra. HMMM

 

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that seems like a horrible way to do it. I am sure that they could have made some sort of lever system if they spend 6-7 hours extra. HMMM</TD></TR></TABLE>

pedal shifters really suck for drifting cars cause sometimes you have to drop quite a bit of gears in a really really heavy turn.... and that integra was made solely to compete against other drifting cars such as the 240sx