Exhaust "pancake" pipe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 12:33 PM
  #1  
h22sedan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
From: BFE, IN, USA
Default Exhaust "pancake" pipe

I've been kind of trying to look around to no avail and find a peice of exhaust piping which is 3" diameter that flattens out (gets more width and becomes shorter in height) to run under the oil pan and then opens back up to 3" diameter.

Basically the problem is that if I run a 3" downpipe under the oil pan I'm fairly certain it will be crushed. This is for a turbo setup on a H22 in a EG. Might just say expletive it and go open downpipe FTW.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 12:38 PM
  #2  
Dueceification's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 647
Likes: 0
From: West Hartford, CT
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (h22sedan)

you could get a pipe that is in a oval shape for under the oil pan ive seen them before. i have the same issue with my setup by i just dont drive over speed bumps
check out this place http://www.drgas.com/store/home.php?cat=8
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:08 PM
  #3  
y7turbo's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 605
Likes: 1
From: Chicago, IL
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (h22sedan)

crush it down some in a bench vice?
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:14 PM
  #4  
EGunit's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
From: Terre Haute, IN, USA
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (h22sedan)

well, you could always raise your car up......the oval pipe idea sounds like it would work fairly well, don't know where you'd go about findin one though
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:25 PM
  #5  
PINKS's Avatar
I want a CRX tattoed on my butt
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,271
Likes: 1
From: Gtown
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (h22sedan)

I crushed mine in a vice, the downpipe was already built, ran under the downpipe but I kept scraping it, so I took it off, crushed that portion in a vice until it was probably close to 4.25" across and I havent had a problem since

The best actually "thought-out" pancake Ive seen, search 2point2's build thread for his downpipe, he made one for an h22 crx that was very nice
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 03:58 PM
  #6  
ProjectDarkBlack's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,813
Likes: 0
From: where knowledge is horsepower
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (PINKS)

any sort of pancake is going to cause you to lose flow, so make sure that it bigger that a 3" pipe. If you have a 3" dp crush 4" pipe to make the pancake otherwise it will be like putting a nozzle in your exhaust
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 04:36 PM
  #7  
PINKS's Avatar
I want a CRX tattoed on my butt
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,271
Likes: 1
From: Gtown
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (ProjectDarkBlack)

No

You sir, are wrong

You still have the same TOTAL flow going through
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 04:47 PM
  #8  
NJIN BUILDR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,333
Likes: 0
From: Hudson, NH, 03051
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (PINKS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No

You sir, are wrong

You still have the same TOTAL flow going through</TD></TR></TABLE>

So if I crush it flat it will still have the same flow as if it were round?How about just a half inch tall?
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 04:53 PM
  #9  
RCautoworks's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 17,227
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (NJIN BUILDR)



If you ask I'm sure they will cut it the length you want
http://store.racing-solutions.org/turboforms.html
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 04:56 PM
  #10  
Boilermaker1's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 1
From: Washington, DC, USA
Default

The Dr. gas site sells frame clearance pipes, which flatten out but have circular ends to weld pipe to it. Not sure how long of a flat section they can make you, but give em a call.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:02 PM
  #11  
Lonnieboosted's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: FL/NY, NY, USA
Default Re: (Boilermaker1)

http://www.burnsstainless.com/....html
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 05:53 PM
  #12  
HamiltonRex's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,540
Likes: 1
From: GTA Ontario.
Default Re: (Lonnieboosted)



This is 2point2's downpipe PM 2point2 for more info.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 07:19 PM
  #13  
Bailhatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,517
Likes: 1
From: ME
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (PINKS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No

You sir, are wrong

You still have the same TOTAL flow going through</TD></TR></TABLE>

errr, less cross-sectional area = less flow capacity. It's actually worse than using a smaller round pipe with the same cross section area because the flow is in contact with more wall area, causing more friction.

If you want to make an oval section get some 2.5" tube and cut it lengthwise, then weld flat pieces between the two U shaped sides. Or maybe fill a 4" tube with sand and hammer it down. take pics!


Modified by Bailhatch at 7:34 AM 1/8/2007
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:34 PM
  #14  
ProjectDarkBlack's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,813
Likes: 0
From: where knowledge is horsepower
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (Bailhatch)

ya the way I figure, the more you crush it the worse it gets, eventually it will be shut. So any crushing will hurt overall flow
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:40 AM
  #15  
tony1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,814
Likes: 8
From: Dallas, TX, USA
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (PINKS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No

You sir, are wrong

You still have the same TOTAL flow going through</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fill a plastic cup with water and squeeze the sides in until it's oval. Does the water level rise?
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:08 AM
  #16  
JG-Fabrications's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Texas, USA
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (tony1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fill a plastic cup with water and squeeze the sides in until it's oval. Does the water level rise?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it doesnt for me but I think that was becuase the cup cracked as I squeezed it lol

-James
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:34 AM
  #17  
Finest's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 4,887
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Default Re: Exhaust "pancake" pipe (tony1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Fill a plastic cup with water and squeeze the sides in until it's oval. Does the water level rise?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Er, Tony....we're talking about exhaust pipes, not water. And who in their right mind will build an exhaust out of plastic? Duh?!



Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
B16-CRX
Welding / Fabrication
1
Apr 29, 2011 07:13 AM
Fully_Built
Acura Integra
6
Feb 6, 2008 09:21 AM
skiwithcars
Welding / Fabrication
15
Aug 1, 2005 05:18 PM
SiRkid
Forced Induction
3
May 11, 2003 10:22 PM
civictypenos
Forced Induction
4
Mar 9, 2003 07:05 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:18 PM.