Its been cold out lately, its been in the 30's-40's. When i start my car in the morning and start driving for the first like 3 times i shift into first its kinda hard to get in. Then once i do it a few times like at different trtaffic lights then its ok for as long as i drive the car. Is this normal for the gears to be alittle hard to get into when its cold out?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zach1288 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its been cold out lately, its been in the 30's-40's. When i start my car in the morning and start driving for the first like 3 times i shift into first its kinda hard to get in. Then once i do it a few times like at different trtaffic lights then its ok for as long as i drive the car. Is this normal for the gears to be alittle hard to get into when its cold out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

When's the last time you changed your tranny fluid? Try putting it in another gear first before going into first.. Also not wanting to go in gear is a sign of a failing clutch master cylinder.. Look up around where the clutch pedal is and see if you see anything leaking

 

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When's the last time you changed your tranny fluid? Try putting it in another gear first before going into first.. Also not wanting to go in gear is a sign of a failing clutch master cylinder.. Look up around where the clutch pedal is and see if you see anything leaking</TD></TR></TABLE>
not wanted to go into gear is also a sign of a failing clutch pressure plate......I know I busted the crap out of mine.

 

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Sorry, but i believe he would know if he busted his pressure plate.. as anyone mechanically inclined would know.

 

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Sorry, but i believe he would know if he busted his pressure plate.. as anyone mechanically inclined would know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You may be mechanically inclined but you apparently don't know it all. If you happen to lose a spring in the pressure plate like I did it becomes more difficult to shift as time goes on until the balance in the clutch plate/clutch disk becomes more unbalanced to the point of failure. I am also a licensed diesel mechanic that practiced my trade in the life threatening sands of Iraq so before you throw your insults and smart comments around maybe you should think that it is entirely possible that there is more than one way to go about finding the source of a problem.
edit: oh and uh....support me...I'm "your troops"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GTlvr82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may be mechanically inclined but you apparently don't know it all. If you happen to lose a spring in the pressure plate like I did it becomes more difficult to shift as time goes on until the balance in the clutch plate/clutch disk becomes more unbalanced to the point of failure. I am also a licensed diesel mechanic that practiced my trade in the life threatening sands of Iraq so before you throw your insults and smart comments around maybe you should think that it is entirely possible that there is more than one way to go about finding the source of a problem.
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Rofl, i never insulted anyone.. I said i'm sure he would know.. wth.. Big difference in only sometimes not wanting to go in gear when it's cold.. then to have a spring come out of the pressure plate and make a hell of a lotta noise.. I've broke 4 pressure plates as well.

 

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edit: oh and uh....support me...I'm "your troops" </TD></TR></TABLE>

and yes.. Be careful

 

Obviously you both suck at driving

 

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That is common sense.....
edit: btw "as anyone mechanically inclined would know." could easily be misleading to the point where someone would take offense to it. Its like saying "your an idiot"....but no offense taken...its the internet after all.

 

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That is common sense.....
edit: btw "as anyone mechanically inclined would know." could easily be misleading to the point where someone would take offense to it. Its like saying "your an idiot"....but no offense taken...its the internet after all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahahahaha i love you nate ( no homo)

 

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ahahahaha i love you nate ( no homo) </TD></TR></TABLE>
QFH (quoted for homo)

 

it's all good.. lets hope he doesn't have a broken PP

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zach1288 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its been cold out lately, its been in the 30's-40's. When i start my car in the morning and start driving for the first like 3 times i shift into first its kinda hard to get in. Then once i do it a few times like at different trtaffic lights then its ok for as long as i drive the car. Is this normal for the gears to be alittle hard to get into when its cold out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is very common when everything's cold. Once the transmission warms up everything will shift smoothly. Changing your fluid can help, it should be changed every 2 years as regular maintenance. You could also try running some GM Synchromesh Friction Modified oil, that usually helps. The main thing to remember is not to force it into first gear when it's cold as it's hard on the synchros.

 

I scored a hatch a while back that had the worst shift feel I've ever experienced, it made me want to hate Hondas

Anyway, somewhere in the midst of two changes of the tranny fluid (~6k mi on Pennzoil SM, and ~6k mi on Honda MTF) it worked its way back to being just fine.

In short, try changing the fluid if it's really bad. Otherwise, while Honda MTF and such are reasonably "thin" lubricants, cold temps and cold trannies generally lead to slow shifting until the fluid heats up.

 

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This is very common when everything's cold. Once the transmission warms up everything will shift smoothly. Changing your fluid can help, it should be changed every 2 years as regular maintenance. You could also try running some GM Synchromesh Friction Modified oil, that usually helps. The main thing to remember is not to force it into first gear when it's cold as it's hard on the synchros.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea it only happens before its warmed up, after that its fine. I just changed the fluid a month ago. Im running GM synchromesh.

Also like the first few posts said it could be a problem with the clutch or pressure plate but if that was true wouldnt i have trouble in all the gears? All the other gears go in like butter.

 

You need to PM "BENSE" on here. He is a tranny expert. He builds trannies all the time and I'm sure he'd be a good source for the answers to your questions.
His Info

 

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Yea it only happens before its warmed up, after that its fine. I just changed the fluid a month ago. Im running GM synchromesh.
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Is it the friction modified formula?


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Also like the first few posts said it could be a problem with the clutch or pressure plate but if that was true wouldnt i have trouble in all the gears?
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Yes that is correct and warming up or being stone cold wouldn't make a bit of difference either if it was any of those things.

 

Way too many responses here for me to read any of 'em.

It's just because the transmission fluid is cold, don't worry about it.

 

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Is it the friction modified formula?

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No just the regular stuff.

 

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No just the regular stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Friction modified is considered to make the best improvement.

 

Can it be mixed with the regular stuff?

 

I would think so but you'd want to have more of the FM in there than the regular stuff.