i was at taco bell eating, came back to the car and my car wouldnt start, the ground for my alram was sparking....put the key in the ON position and tried to crank then my instrument cluster went crazy...the speedo was jumping all over the place...got it to work like 5 minutes later...left taco bell went home, wake up the next day try to start it, this time it takes me 30 MINUTES then the fuel pump finally primes, constantly banging the relay on the ground and plugging it back in....friend drops by and drops me off a extra relay put it in first crank it starts, turn it off then it starts acting up again.
i think the main relay might be overloading or frying the damn thing

its been 2 days since then and the car wont even fkucing start, so im stuck
it doesnt help that my alarm wires are all over the ******* place either...but it wasnt giving me a problem before, just installed a new fuel pump today still no dice

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check ur grounds

 

honestly I would remove the alarm completely, then troubleshoot from there.....after market alarms can cause some random problems when they are involved with the ignition switch.

 

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for future reference: dont ghetto rig, and you won't have to second guess as to whether or not it is contributing to your current stupid problems..

 

Everytime we have a customer with non-starting electrical problems come in to the shop the first thing i tell them is that the alarm, if present, is getting taken out. 99% of the time that i have worked on a car the problem is the alarm, or at least part of it. And that way you can eliminate the possibility of someones faulty wiring that has finally started acting up. make sure to reisolate all the wires that have been tampered with.

 

Replace the mail relay with a known working one.. I done a write up on resoldering the joints on the relays, give me a sec and i might be able to find..

 

Ok anyways, i can't find the post on the write up.. So basically if you know how to use a soldering gun you can fix the problem.
You'll need to carefully pull the relay apart.. and you'll see the joint on the relay some may be corroded have hairline cracks,etc thus being the reason it's acting up. Pick up some 40/40 soldier.

I always very easily scuffed the only joints up with a wire brush and then went around and added a tiny bit of soldier to the dry joints..

Put the relay back together and your fixed.

Refrence: http://autorepair.about.com/cs...1.htm

pm me if you have any further ?'s.

 

thx bross
thats y i love honda tech

 

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no problem.

 

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so what do you do when you find out its not the alarm system. Do you have a shop put it right back in. Or they are sol and you tell them its the alarm and fix the other problem. I seen cars not start and it had none thing to do with the alarm. So if the dizzy bad or a bad crank sensor you ****** the alarm ? I can't see 99% of it being the alarm fault.

 

My bro had the same deal, honda dealer took out the factory chip/anti-start thing (pro-lock), replaced the main/fusible link. But it turns out a faulty starter was overloading the circuits, it kept on blowing the fusible link. New starter, no more problems. So it can be a lot of things...

 

found the problem, it was the fuel pump jus bought a new one 2day, first crank nothin...take out the relay bang it on the ground then crank, starts sooo im thinking it was the relay to some how

 

did u check if u got power to the fuel pump harness? and make sure ur relay and fuses are good. it might just be something that got lose.and dont forget to check the two grounds to the thermostat housing.Check your ECU. Pull it and look for damage to the board - burned circuits. The ECU controls the ground for the fuel pump as well check that too

 

well around here it is.

Im saying its easier pulling out the obvious things first, if you look at an alarm and wires are twistied together with no solder nor isolation around it, just bare wires? Wouldnt you pull it out first?

If everything is fixed we ask them if they want the alarm back in and if they do we put it back in.