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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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my setup is:
81.5mm LS
11:1 cc'd in chamber
homemade port work
crower VT w/ .5mm over valves
crower 403's.
skunk IM/LS TB
DC 4-2-1 (junk) i use this header cause it has an EGT probe.

motor is untuned right now.

this motor was built and then rebuilt by me... but when i rebuilt it i went super cheap. its burning some oil because i didn't replace valve seals. when i go to replace valve seals, i was thinking about putting in some bigger cams

whats some opinions on my setup with 405a's?

please... dont tell me to throw a VTEC head on. this motor is in my beater... i dont really care that much about it.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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I would go for the 404 instead of the 405a's.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC4KiD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would go for the 404 instead of the 405a's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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i run 404's and make power all the way to 8grand. from what i heard 405's are just way to hard to idle. the 404's are just about a race cam, so the 405 got to be a beast.

but if you can live with the idle go for it

and i think they need more CR than the 11:1 your running now to get the full potential out of them
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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The thing is though, with very large overlap cams its not just the crappy idle with no vacuum--its the fact that the car is very easy to stall even up to like 1500 rpm--and it becomes much more demanding to drive in traffic especially with a puck style clutch--I drive an a6 with a very large cam and at low rpm its very hard to drive and pull away from a stop smoothly.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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404's.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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if you put the 405s in that motor they would just loose power all over exept maybe the last 500 rpm compared to 404's.

404's are perfect for a 1.8l and will support up to 180ish max on a 1.8l. most people get between 160-175 depending on the build with 404's.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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ok, thanks for the advice.

i can't believe theres so many non-vtec builds now. a few years ago hardly anyone was doing big non-vtec builds.

i was going to get some dyno time, but then holidays came sooner than expected. f'ing xmas presents suck..... to buy.

i might do a before and after: 403's vs. 404's on my setup.

thanks for the help again
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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once i get my head ported id like to do a before and after with the 404's i have now and 405's. problem is its another 150-200 bux just to satisfy my curiosity.
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