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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Setup:
B18A Block
B16 JDM head (stock valve train at the time) will sure upgrade valves and valve springs.
ITR Cams
LS Rods will be reconditioned + Arp Bolts
ITR Pistons (about 11.1 :1) may be higher because of decked block and head.
GSR Water Pump
ITR Oil Pump
GSR Block Girdle + ITR pan, baffle plate and pickup
LS Crank
ARP fasteners
ALC bearings

It's funny, the guy that I bought the engine from said the the block is stock but the crank had b/20 written on it with a permanent marker. Can some one let me know if that's suppose to be a b20 or is it really an LS crank? and what are the difference in Crank Throws between the two. I prefferred and LS crank myself. Please some one let me know if it's normal for factory to lable their Cranks.

As for my rod, do you guys recommend getting a new set? or are they fine. I'm hopping to rev to 9000 with ease. I want to run NA for now but may go with TURBO possibly....

power? 200HP is it possible with this setup? or
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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ls and b20 cranks are the same. no need to rev to 9k unless you make power that high. which you wont with itr cams. it just puts unnecessary stress on the engine.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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with the $ you're spenging on the itr cams just buy a set of better cams. a nice set of crowers used in great condit. wont run you too much more
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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will i be making more power at high RPM? with the crower?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec_avenue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will i be making more power at high RPM? with the crower?</TD></TR></TABLE>

itr cams generally dont make power past 8500 rpm
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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ohh, thanks
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PnkRokCountryboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the $ you're spenging on the itr cams just buy a set of better cams. a nice set of crowers used in great condit. wont run you too much more</TD></TR></TABLE>

true story

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PnkRokCountryboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the $ you're spenging on the itr cams just buy a set of better cams. a nice set of crowers used in great condit. wont run you too much more</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, got a set of crowers in my ls-vtec and they make some good power
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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how bout my rods? are they good?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec_avenue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how bout my rods? are they good?</TD></TR></TABLE>

rods are fine, just make sure to hone the big end to get it round after you install the ARP rod bolts.
As for your piston choice, go with some P30's. No need to shave the small end with them and higher compression.
As for the cams, sell them.
A good header is going to make or break that setup. Make sure to pick up a Tri-Y header w/ 2.5 inch collector.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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they will be reconditioned and ARPs will lock it in place but if I were to go turbo, will they hold up to 10 PSI?
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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If i were to go with 9 to 1 C/R w/turbo, How much power can I expect from my stock rods?



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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Need Ideas With My LS/VTEC Build....all inputs Welcome!! (vtec_avenue)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec_avenue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Setup:
B18A Block
B16 JDM head (stock valve train at the time) will sure upgrade valves and valve springs.
ITR Cams
LS Rods will be reconditioned + Arp Bolts
ITR Pistons (about 11.1 :1) may be higher because of decked block and head.
GSR Water Pump
ITR Oil Pump
GSR Block Girdle + ITR pan, baffle plate and pickup
LS Crank
ARP fasteners
ALC bearings

It's funny, the guy that I bought the engine from said the the block is stock but the crank had b/20 written on it with a permanent marker. Can some one let me know if that's suppose to be a b20 or is it really an LS crank? and what are the difference in Crank Throws between the two. I prefferred and LS crank myself. Please some one let me know if it's normal for factory to lable their Cranks.

As for my rod, do you guys recommend getting a new set? or are they fine. I'm hopping to rev to 9000 with ease. I want to run NA for now but may go with TURBO possibly....

power? 200HP is it possible with this setup? or
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I pretty much did the EXACT same thing you did. I made 180/120 tuning on Crome. I used stock injectors though and S2S1 cams. You need to do some headwork and damn sure use ARP rod bolts. Don't expect to make huge power unless you plan on using huge cams. All in all, for what I spent....damn good setup.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:50 AM
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if you take this ls/vtec engine and swap out the rods/pistons with forged ones (say some eagle rods and wiseco pistons) then your set for turbo...

for all motor i belive that skunk2 is stil loffering their buy back program, maybe look into some decent skunk2 cams/valvetrain and a great header.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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i got more or less the same setup ,lsvtec, block decked ,gsr head ,valve train sc2s3,ctr pistons ,tuned on crome got 191.5/138tq on a mustang dyno.thats like 220-230 on a dynojet. and going to retune soon to see wat gains i got with some extra mods,ahh and thats on 81mm bore.got a b20 at 85mm going in soon...i alsow got arp rod bolts but i didnt hone the rods but working great...good luck.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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ttt
wow nice build, but please fill free to give more inputs everyone


Modified by vtec_avenue at 2:38 PM 12/27/2006


Modified by vtec_avenue at 6:11 PM 12/31/2006
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