hmmm .. gettin better at the h22 questions for the gurus
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now so that there wont be that much whining, ive done some research .. (and none really came from the forum as to a past question on getting a list of parts i'de need) ANYWAY... what can u guys tell me of sleeving the block , boaring it out to 88mm, and getting an h23 crank put in .. thats what im basically gonna be doing. forgot what else im gonna be getting, but thats an idea of how my setup is gonna be. i met a guy a speed and kustoms shop in my area and he showd me some pretty ridiculouse things. like a ef hatch with a J25 .... which he plans on having it run 8 sekonds. kinda sick . lol .. and that on his friends h22 .. their gonna be boosting 42 lbs the next time they dyno it. kause last time they had the boost up to 38psi n that they did something else to it. which is why their gonna be able to push the boost that much more.. god damn ...42lbs of boost on a h22 ..he said hed show me the dyno sheet .. i kant wait .. never hear of 40+ lbs before.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by konkr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now so that there wont be that much whining, ive done some research .. (and none really came from the forum as to a past question on getting a list of parts i'de need) ANYWAY... what can u guys tell me of sleeving the block , boaring it out to 88mm, and getting an h23 crank put in .. thats what im basically gonna be doing. forgot what else im gonna be getting, but thats an idea of how my setup is gonna be. i met a guy a speed and kustoms shop in my area and he showd me some pretty ridiculouse things. like a ef hatch with a J25 .... which he plans on having it run 8 sekonds. kinda sick . lol .. and that on his friends h22 .. their gonna be boosting 42 lbs the next time they dyno it. kause last time they had the boost up to 38psi n that they did something else to it. which is why their gonna be able to push the boost that much more.. god damn ...42lbs of boost on a h22 ..he said hed show me the dyno sheet .. i kant wait .. never hear of 40+ lbs before. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Proper punctuation and capital letters would probably go a long way to getting you a decent response.
It sounds like you did some research alright, but it seems like you still have no idea why you're putting in an H23 crank, or sleeving the block, or putting new pistons in.
Then you go on to rant about how some guy is gonna run 40+ PSI...wow, I'm sorry but nobody here cares. I'm not trying to be a dick but if you want to ask a question just ask it and we'll be more then happy to help you out.
Proper punctuation and capital letters would probably go a long way to getting you a decent response.
It sounds like you did some research alright, but it seems like you still have no idea why you're putting in an H23 crank, or sleeving the block, or putting new pistons in.
Then you go on to rant about how some guy is gonna run 40+ PSI...wow, I'm sorry but nobody here cares. I'm not trying to be a dick but if you want to ask a question just ask it and we'll be more then happy to help you out.
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alright then, just dont worry about the 40+ psi . i just thought it was all out krazy. and thanks again for answering the question .. it seems here that quite a good percentage of this forums members are stuck up .. can one that ISNT please answer a question without some sort of whining. its great that you guys know what people like me dont. but i thought the idea here was to actually pass that knowledge on. not whine about missing apostrophies .damn.
and no i dont kno that much about why ide boar out the block . my thought was so that i kan place some larger pistons in for more torque ..but thats just what i *think. not what i *know. .. and about the h23 crank. obviousely if i boar out the block to 88mm it would no longer be a 2.2liter .. so ide need the h23 crank to compensate . correct me if im wrong. and again. what can u guys tell me about this set up ..i'de just like to know if anyone here has experimented with it, or has it.
and no i dont kno that much about why ide boar out the block . my thought was so that i kan place some larger pistons in for more torque ..but thats just what i *think. not what i *know. .. and about the h23 crank. obviousely if i boar out the block to 88mm it would no longer be a 2.2liter .. so ide need the h23 crank to compensate . correct me if im wrong. and again. what can u guys tell me about this set up ..i'de just like to know if anyone here has experimented with it, or has it.
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no one here is stuck up or whining. this is not a "superhonda" type site. we like detail and clear information. your post contains neither of those.
the fact is that you wrote a post that is hardly legible and are rambling on about some guy and his 8 second (yeah right) car running 40+ lbs of boost.
I don't even know what you're really asking. What is your question??
no one here is stuck up or whining. this is not a "superhonda" type site. we like detail and clear information. your post contains neither of those.
the fact is that you wrote a post that is hardly legible and are rambling on about some guy and his 8 second (yeah right) car running 40+ lbs of boost.
I don't even know what you're really asking. What is your question??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by konkr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the J25 is the 2005 or 2006 accord V6 engine... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda doesn't have a J25 engine. The J-series V6 engines are either J30, J32, etc. The numbers in the designation refer to the size of the motor... For example, the J30 is a 3.0 liter engine. A J25 simply doesn't exist in the Honda world.
Oh, and you won't need an H23 crank just because you're going to bore out your block.
Otherwise I agree with notoriousB, in that I'm a little confused as to what you're asking...
Honda doesn't have a J25 engine. The J-series V6 engines are either J30, J32, etc. The numbers in the designation refer to the size of the motor... For example, the J30 is a 3.0 liter engine. A J25 simply doesn't exist in the Honda world.
Oh, and you won't need an H23 crank just because you're going to bore out your block.
Otherwise I agree with notoriousB, in that I'm a little confused as to what you're asking...
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The J25A was the first J-series engine produced. It was only used in the export-model Inspire/Saber models, however. The J25A displaced 2.5 L and was an SOHC VTEC design. Output was 192 hp.
=/ ... u learn sumthin new everyday huh .. im pretty sure i got the years mixd up though.. but that it exists . it exists .. and i know that h22 means 2.2liter or a b18 is 1.8 liter. i also know that the h22 isnt truly 2.2 liter nor is the h23 truly 2.3. their just a bit short of the actual literage they state they are. boaring it out a little will compensate and add the torque.
"""Oh, and you won't need an H23 crank just because you're going to bore out your block."""
oh .. can u tell me what that would do then?
=/ ... u learn sumthin new everyday huh .. im pretty sure i got the years mixd up though.. but that it exists . it exists .. and i know that h22 means 2.2liter or a b18 is 1.8 liter. i also know that the h22 isnt truly 2.2 liter nor is the h23 truly 2.3. their just a bit short of the actual literage they state they are. boaring it out a little will compensate and add the torque.
"""Oh, and you won't need an H23 crank just because you're going to bore out your block."""
oh .. can u tell me what that would do then?
Interesting enough... I was never aware that a 2.5L V6 was ever produced. Then again, I don't pay much attention to JDM things. The strange thing is that they say it was the 1st J-series and that in came out in the '99 model of Inspire and Saber. Yet, the J30 was in the '97 CL, and then in the '98 Accord.
In regards to the crank... If you bore out the block, all you need is appropriately sized pistons and rings.
In regards to the crank... If you bore out the block, all you need is appropriately sized pistons and rings.
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who knows .. but that was copied n pasted from a honda website.
as for the crank ..
so ur saying that i wouldnt really need the crank . ?
if anything, can you inform me on what type of effect a h23 crank would have in a h22 ? ide like to kno where the purpose of doing that would be.
as for the crank ..
so ur saying that i wouldnt really need the crank . ?
if anything, can you inform me on what type of effect a h23 crank would have in a h22 ? ide like to kno where the purpose of doing that would be.
The are two differences between the H23 crank and the H22 crank. One is the main journal diameter. All H23s are 55mm, while 97 and older H22s are 50mm. 98+ H22s are 55mm, just like the H23s.
The most important difference, is the stroke. H23s have a 93mm stroke, versus the H22s 90.7mm stroke. The H23s longer stroke provides a little more torque, but at the same time sacrifies how high the motor can rev.
The most important difference, is the stroke. H23s have a 93mm stroke, versus the H22s 90.7mm stroke. The H23s longer stroke provides a little more torque, but at the same time sacrifies how high the motor can rev.
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ohhh ... torque is pretty much what an accord needs. we dont have CRX's with b16's .. lol...
i see why now .. thank u señor, that pretty much wrapped up my question.
thanks
i see why now .. thank u señor, that pretty much wrapped up my question.
thanks
Info from Wiki about the J25. It lists it as the first J-series... just above listing the J30 from 2 years earlier. aaaahhhhh wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_J_engine#J25
NSX used a C30 or C32 motor.
OP, I may be wrong on this, and someone correct me if I am, but I believe one of the F22 cranks fits in the pre-98 block. Anybody?
Even at 40psi, the bottom end will be really straightforward. Sleeve it and buy really tough versions of everything. The real question is what will you use to tune it? You guys have any ideas so far? Any idea on budget? How are you guys at wiring? There are lots of good options, and a good way to narrow it down is budget and skillset. Also availability of dyno time.
Also, any thoughts on the head/intake manifold? Again, budget? There is usually more power to be found in the head than with uber-boost. 20psi on a really good head and fab'd IM may outpower 40psi choked through a stockish head with OEM valves. Look for some good port work and upsize the valves. Consider welding up your own IM.
I was kind of an *** last time. It has mainly to do with the way the post was written. Ask in English, and some people here will still flame (true on every board), but you will get answers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_J_engine#J25
NSX used a C30 or C32 motor.
OP, I may be wrong on this, and someone correct me if I am, but I believe one of the F22 cranks fits in the pre-98 block. Anybody?
Even at 40psi, the bottom end will be really straightforward. Sleeve it and buy really tough versions of everything. The real question is what will you use to tune it? You guys have any ideas so far? Any idea on budget? How are you guys at wiring? There are lots of good options, and a good way to narrow it down is budget and skillset. Also availability of dyno time.
Also, any thoughts on the head/intake manifold? Again, budget? There is usually more power to be found in the head than with uber-boost. 20psi on a really good head and fab'd IM may outpower 40psi choked through a stockish head with OEM valves. Look for some good port work and upsize the valves. Consider welding up your own IM.
I was kind of an *** last time. It has mainly to do with the way the post was written. Ask in English, and some people here will still flame (true on every board), but you will get answers
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