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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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When I let off the throttle my A/F goes threw the roof. It comes right back down to normal, but seems odd that motor would run that lean for sec...

Here is a log of what is going on when going to 2k RPM and letting off.



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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Air / Fuel after throttle lift - Is this normal >> ? (platinum00)

Thats normal, also when you blip the throttle it does that.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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So is the motor really runing that lean, or is it just cause the gas gets sucked out of the exhaust during lift?

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Are you asking about when you're completely off the throttle? Off throttle the injectors are off...
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's ok to be lean at idle.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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mine does the same thing i wouldnt worry about it.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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The injectors shut off completely when your decelerating off the throttle completely. However if your at part throttle and its that lean then you have a problem.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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No for sure not part throttle. A/F looks fine during throttle and boost.

I guess it's the injectors shuting off when decelerating.

Learn something everyday from you guys.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The injectors shut off completely when your decelerating off the throttle completely. However if your at part throttle and its that lean then you have a problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hit the nail on the head
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Air / Fuel after throttle lift - Is this normal >> ? (platinum00)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by platinum00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No for sure not part throttle. A/F looks fine during throttle and boost.

I guess it's the injectors shuting off when decelerating.

Learn something everyday from you guys.

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Thats it! I noticed when i let off my Wideband would go nuts!! Like -x38 past 1:100 AFR lol!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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yea plx m300 just reads "air" when you let off the throttle.

totally normal.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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fuel cut under decel. Aem has a couple parameters you can set.... its pretty dope. I had the decel function in my SDS unit as well.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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thats normal man
that means the ecu cut off the duty cycle on the injectors to a point it will lean
the amount of fuel and air consumed by the engine is minimal and poses no threat to the engine
everytime i datalog my air fuels during shifts it also climbs up to 21 afr's and goes back to normal
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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That is why when you datalog, you set a min TPS, so you don't get those big spikes in the A/F.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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can you elaborate on setting a minimum tps, what would you want to set it to?

sorry im a noob when it comes to this
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is why when you datalog, you set a min TPS, so you don't get those big spikes in the A/F. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is this in the EMS software?

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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thats wierd, cause when I let go of the gas/shift my A/F goes rich. It will read rich for like 2-3 seconds THEN go lean. Its wierd cause when im driving, I shift from 2nd and the a/f goes rich then go into 3rd, if I shift fast the a/f is still rich and when I give it some gas in 3rd it'll make a small pop. It does this just about every time in every gear.

I'm running crome with the plx m300.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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I was told by xercon that OBD1 injectors shut off until 1300RPM and then they turn back on to catch the idle.
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