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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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http://www.ephatch.com/resourc...g.htm
*read write up above for full explaination*

the guy who did this, did it on a EP, but i'm wondering if it'd be the same for us. basically using a spark plug non-fouler kit to move the o2 sensor away from the direct flow of the exhaust gases from the motor.

makes sense to me...anyone want to give it a try?
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Default Re: could this solve our obd2 CEL for test pipes / high flow cats ?? (undercoverdc2)

Sorry, I have obd1

But, I don't see why it Wouldn't work, maybe someone should try it soon.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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looks like it would work
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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i hope someone tries it soon. haha
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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it should work...evo and subie owners have been doing this for a while w/ no cel's
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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that will definitely work. thats no different than taking the second O2 sensor and zip-tying it somewhere outside of the test pipe. all you are doing is making it so no exhaust hits the second O2 sensor, tricking the ecu in to thinking the cat is working.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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yes that will work. but if you dont have the tools or cant do it you should look into http://o2simulator.com/
i think a lot easier to deal with some wires
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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I bought the Casper Electronics o2 sim, bout 2 years ago, and still works good. cant member how much it was though.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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yes this method will work for sure. i had it done on my 00 em1 for about 6 months before i switched to obd1
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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i'm just glad I have OBD I, much less hassels
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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most threads i've read about o2 simulators say that it doesn't even work. this has got to be a lot cheaper than a o2 simulator anyways.
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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o2 simulator seems like a waste of money when you can just zip tie the sensor anywhere outside of the test pipe...
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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im gonna try this somtime this week need to pass obd2 emissions
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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i have a 2000 integra.
i just ziptied my 2nd o2 to the car and pluged the hole.
works fine, been like that for 2 years.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr_Moos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im gonna try this somtime this week need to pass obd2 emissions </TD></TR></TABLE>

let us know how it goes!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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i dont know.. i would pay $25 (o2 sim) to make it look like i have sensors in the pipe. Maybe because Im in california..
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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I REALIZE it's not always the Honda way to DIY but: It's pretty easy to make a MIL eliminator for like... 3 bucks, I've done this for a few OBDII Accord's and it works fine. I started doing it after I bought my first 2G DSM years ago, this is the method they use to defeat it:

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/O2bypass.html

Obviously the wire colors are not valid for a Honda, but if you have a clue and a wiring diagram of the car it's easy to figure out.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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i used the spark plug foulers, like the pictures showed, when installing my skunk 2 test pipe. when i first started the car up the CEL came on, so i said fu*k it, and about 2 months later the CEL just went off.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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i used the spark plug non-foulers on my car for about a year with no problems. Took them out along with the secondary o2 after going obd1.

mechanical&gt;electrical anyday

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akandok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know.. i would pay $25 (o2 sim) to make it look like i have sensors in the pipe. Maybe because Im in california..</TD></TR></TABLE>

the sensor is still in the pipe, and if a Cali cop looks under you car and sees a test pipe instead of a cat having a sensor pluged in or not wouldn't matter
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Another option would be too elimianate the o2 sensor by getting the optimal resistance code from either a dealer or online, if you are interested i could get it for you. im me. But then you could wire in that resistor, to send false, but good info to your ecu. this way you could get rid of the o2 sensor al together
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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does anyone know if you can pass emissions w/ the sparkplug defoulers on the second o2 sensor???
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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Yes it works. I did that on my wrx (completely catless)
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