Hey I am looking to buy a header for my 1993 ls .cuz i just got a high flow cat .. i was told from many people that a 90 and 91 is a shorter and the headers are different and a 92 and 93 they are longer , I dont wanna buy one and it dont fit . Also what is a good header for kinda cheap . on a low bugget right now and dont wanna spend 300 400 dallors for a header .. Thanks Guys

 

megan headers are a good deal, they run about 150 shipped, i just got one off ebay. Just make sure you buy one that is for your year

 

IMO, the best header you could get couldn't be used in the same sent. as cheap.
I would have to reccomend an RMF or SMSP but you are looking somewhere around $700-$1200 for a custom made header. If you are staying NA I would reccomend that you wait and save for one of those, if you are going turbo then don't worry about getting one at all. A high flow cat doesn't need a header.

 

well anyone that spends 700 to 1200 for a header is smoking crack and has nothing to better to do with their money haha.. Ill look into megan racing .. Also is there a trick to not breaking the bolts were it bolts on to the head ?

 

They should come out of the aluminum head pretty easily. If yours look pretty bad you can try spraying them with penetrating oil first, but I don't think you'll have a problem

 

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crack? No its the lack of them smoking crack that allows them to have the money to do so. Guess you wont ever be in the 10 second range with your NA b-series.

 

smsp are really good headers but as they said they are very expensive, is this going to be a daily street driven vechile? if so then i would say go with dc sport or greddy

 

yeah i drive it everyday .. i am not building a drag car . i just want a nice sound .. I'll look into them companys . I race stock cars for speed i dont need a street car that runs 10 sec's kinda pointless to me had to many friends died . thanks guys

 

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crack? No its the lack of them smoking crack that allows them to have the money to do so. Guess you wont ever be in the 10 second range with your NA b-series.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed, I am in the middle of pricing my parts for this winters project build and will be spending alot of "crack" money.

I am not telling you that you have to buy one, but for the best NA numbers possible I would choose a header that will give 17-24HP(RMF, SMSP) vs 2-3HP(DC, Megan, etc)

To each his own.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlammedDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Agreed, I am in the middle of pricing my parts for this winters project build and will be spending alot of "crack" money.

I am not telling you that you have to buy one, but for the best NA numbers possible I would choose a header that will give 17-24HP(RMF, SMSP) vs 2-3HP(DC, Megan, etc)

To each his own.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not that low man...

 

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not that low man...</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not gonna be that high either. Your looking around 2-5 for a cheapo header

 

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ya i know that but he doesnt have the money to spend on a custom header...he said he doesnt want to spend $300-400 and thats DC level! The only thing that is in his range with some respect is Megan. And the range of HP gain is more like 4-7.. not 2-3 or 2-5

 

Power loss (DC 2" collector) - 7hp loss
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1366827


$1000 comptech race header/test pipe - gain 14hp
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=762679

Cheap ebay special (wow.....30hp loss over a spoon)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=241966

JDM 4-1 w/ carsound 2.5" cat (8hp gain)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=300031

With the ebay special header alone, you'll most likely gain no more then 4hp and you have the possibility of losing hp. Ofcourse theres a lack of dynos for the ebay special header because all the cheap ****** that buy them dont have money to dyno them and certainly arent going to pay for a before and after dyno.....

NA cars are expensive for very little hp, but at the same time, very little hp can make you go alot faster. Magically a 270whp NA car can go as fast as a 500+whp turbo car.......interesting isnt it.

 

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lol, nice. Thanks for the links, I am to lazy to look them up and was supposed to be working anyway.
And you gotta love how an NA works.
I am debating on staying NA and autocrossing my integra or boosting the hell out of it and dragging it. Ah decisions.

 

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lol, nice. Thanks for the links, I am to lazy to look them up and was supposed to be working anyway.
And you gotta love how an NA works.
I am debating on staying NA and autocrossing my integra or boosting the hell out of it and dragging it. Ah decisions.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I still like drag, but for the integra/civic chassis I'd stay NA or go with a rather small, quick spooling turbo.

 

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I still like drag, but for the integra/civic chassis I'd stay NA or go with a rather small, quick spooling turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
If I boost I am going with a GT35t or GT40r go big or go home
I'll probably end up staying NA

 

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If I boost I am going with a GT35t or GT40r go big or go home
I'll probably end up staying NA</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the idea with a small turbo is to be "like" NA, only have more power with less effort. Basically have the long flat torque curve, only with more torque (like 200 ft/lbs vs 140). That plus either of those turbos = lag + spinning tires.....thus the reason for RWD and 335s....oh but wait.....335s cost out the ***.

 

ok, whoa. this guy said he wants a cheap header for his daily driver. He didnt say he wanted a header for his track car which he was building to run a 10 sec quarter mile.
he said he doesnt want to go as high as the 400 dollar range so you sugest the 700-1200 range?

17-24 gain on an otherwise stock motor? no tuning or anything? thats insane maybe they are worth it in that case.
and only 2-3 for the megan header?
there is no way the difference could be that great if you compared these two headers on the same motor, with the same mods and tunning
im not saying the headers a equal, but the difference isnt that great

 

Haha....you obviously missed the dyno where the header(s) actually lost hp. I guess Im not much help, but when it comes to cheap headers, there are no dyno graphs to back them up and really no good information on them, thus its hard to say. I can tell you that from what Ive seen, there really is that large of a difference in the custom built and the cheap headers. Everybody wants to claim big hp from cheap parts, but I havent seen any proof....just *** dynos and "it feels faster".

 

just because the pipes are shiny and apparently bigger diameter piping doesn't mean horsepower. it sucks but its true.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k624ash &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, whoa. this guy said he wants a cheap header for his daily driver. He didnt say he wanted a header for his track car which he was building to run a 10 sec quarter mile.
he said he doesnt want to go as high as the 400 dollar range so you sugest the 700-1200 range?

17-24 gain on an otherwise stock motor? no tuning or anything? thats insane maybe they are worth it in that case.
and only 2-3 for the megan header?
there is no way the difference could be that great if you compared these two headers on the same motor, with the same mods and tunning
im not saying the headers a equal, but the difference isnt that great</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't say he had to get the $1200 header, I just said if he planned to stay NA and was eventually going to build his car, then to save his money and do it right the first time. But I guess people can't read, or figure out what someone is trying to say ::shrugs::

Anyway to 95 integra...it looks like I will have me a new RMF in January for my birthday becuase I tore off about a good 3 inches of my crappy *** dc that came with my car, haha for being slammed. Oh well it's a pretty good excuse for my wife to buy me a $700 header plus shipping.

 

well from what i understand the megan header has the same dyno results as the dc sport headers, and the same quality.

im not saying to buy one of those 30 dollar DC-S headers you see on ebay, i could see those as actualy loosing power and falling apart quickly, but if your on a tight budget i would say the megan is more bang for the buck

 

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Anyway to 95 integra...it looks like I will have me a new RMF in January for my birthday becuase I tore off about a good 3 inches of my crappy *** dc that came with my car, haha for being slammed. Oh well it's a pretty good excuse for my wife to buy me a $700 header plus shipping.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats what wives and dual incomes are for. Now I just need to find a decent girl that makes alot of money to buy me nice things . BTW, did you actually grind the bottomside enough that it tore/created a hole or did it just dent in?