Is it better to have low compression for a jackson supercharger?
And if it does.... I plan on doing the frankenstien project on my car...
and putting a Turbo with the supercharger....
What would the best compression be for that?
Anyone.... can you give me a example short build?

Thanks in advanced,,,,,
~Trying to learn..... so its success~

 

Just go with a good solid turbo set-up. There is no need to run a supercharger and turbo. If you are going to build the motor I am sure you could get 250+ whp with a very reliable setup. Do pleanty of reasearch and look around the FI forum also.

 

Ok but what if I just want a supercharger for now?....
I mean.... do I need low compression?
And if so... Just go with the good H-Beam rods and forged pistons?
Do I need my crank swapped?
Or would it be reliable with a stock motor that has like 5k miles on it

 

First off what year car and engine. I am guessing you have a GSR. What mods have you do so far. How many miles? Have you done a compression/leak down test??

Do you want to rebuild the motor? or would you rather stick with a stock motor and build a smaller/low boost turbo, or supercharger setup.

 

'01 GSR
Dc Head
Short Ram Intake
Cat back Greddy Exaust
I have about 3,000 miles on it....
Brand new engine..... insurance paid for it from hydro-locking
I want to start off small.... I want to try out the supercharger...
no one goes that route... and afterwards... when I have some more money... I want to get a Turboe as well.
I love cars and the scene and everything... but everyone is doing the samething... over and over... I want to add a little twist to it by having both eventually
I know for the boost on the turbo setup I am going to have to get some stronger rods and pistons that will drop the compression a bit.
But what if there is a supercharger aswell?
Thats what I am getting to.
No matter what I am supercharging it later.... and then boosting it aswell
This is my project []

 

You can run a stock bottom end with either a SC or turbo, it just depends on how much HP you want. Also you will want to do a LOT of reasearch on running both. It is not common and it is not going to be the easiest thing to run.

To be honest I would post this in the FI forum as there might be someone in there who has done it. Also google for some mini copper forums. A friend of mine is deep into minis and he was telling me about some project cars that run both. You might be able to get a lot of information from there.

 

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I want to start off small.... I want to try out the supercharger...
no one goes that route... and afterwards... when I have some more money... I want to get a Turboe as well.
I love cars and the scene and everything... but everyone is doing the samething... This is my project []</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is a reason everyone is doing the same thing... IT WORKS! Sounds like you have your mind set on your LS/V Superturbo setup, just let us know how it works out. And about the compression... since you are doing everything else backwards just go with a high compression piston.

...Your question should not be do you need low compression, but is a Supercharged turbo engine even worth it? Ill go ahead and answer, No. If you just have money to waist the go for it.

Yes it is diffrent and will make you special, and by special I mean the retarded type of special.

Just turbo you GSR and lower compression with forged internals and boost the crap out of it. Then see if you want to add that supercharger.

 

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There is a reason everyone is doing the same thing... IT WORKS! Sounds like you have your mind set on your LS/V Superturbo setup, just let us know how it works out. And about the compression... since you are doing everything else backwards just go with a high compression piston.

...Your question should not be do you need low compression, but is a Supercharged turbo engine even worth it? Ill go ahead and answer, No. If you just have money to waist the go for it.

Yes it is diffrent and will make you special, and by special I mean the retarded type of special.

Just turbo you GSR and lower compression with forged internals and boost the crap out of it. Then see if you want to add that supercharger. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

I say go turbo 1st and then see if you still want a sc. And if you still want a sc then build the motor for boost and see if thats enough for you. If its not then just do both...

Have you ever had a turbo or sc car before?

 

There is a reason.....
have you had a good amount of Torque?
How about Mid range power?
Ok... now how about Top end power?
See where I am going? I will have all......
So why dont you look into something before you comment
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497

 

There is a saying...you dont get something for nothing...The amount of heat youd generate running both an SC and a turbo would negatively affect your power...In fact it'd be damn right ineffecient...If you want bragging rights...ok go ahead..If you want a fast car, you got some reevaluation to do

 

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have you had a good amount of Torque?
How about Mid range power?
Ok... now how about Top end power?
See where I am going? I will have all......
So why dont you look into something before you comment
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497 </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not an efficient setup. if it was, it would be more common and therefore you'd find more answers when you search.

 

Ohhh but it is a more common thing.... just not for honda's...
Mini Coopers do it alot... aswell as the new V.W.
If they can make this system work effiecently then so can I.
Just like RMCdaniels did.
Why does everyone always think negative things?
Why cant they be more insightful and willing to help?
I am not trying to brag or whatever but yet do a project that I want.
And really,,, if you have nothing positive to say or post or any suggestions that are of the system.... then please... dont post here...
Maybe there will be a seperate group of people that might want a project to work?
And also...If your a noob and have nothing but useless comment... you are not needed here!
Thanks

 

have fun

 

There is a twincharged ION redline. Awesome technology, the tuning is a bitch not to mention reliabilty. The cost effective way would be a built GSR with a huge snail. I know you wanna be unorthodox but you will be paying out the *** for it. Hahn just came out with a twin charge kit for the SS/SC, its got my name on it. Thats a kit though, your doing all you stuff custom. I like blowers they sound cooler IMO, too each his own. My friend had a stock B16 with a JRSC on it his #4 leaned out and he blew it up. He is running an LS/VTEC right now with plans on qutie a large snail.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Task-Gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a reason.....
have you had a good amount of Torque?
How about Mid range power?
Ok... now how about Top end power?
See where I am going? I will have all......
So why dont you look into something before you comment

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1293497 </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do my research, if you did yours wouldnt be doing this setup. Don't make a post on this site if you are going to be close minded. If you want to do your cool little diffrent SC/turo go ahead, but we are only trying to warn you and save you money.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Task-Gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ohhh but it is a more common thing.... just not for honda's...
Mini Coopers do it alot... aswell as the new V.W.
If they can make this system work effiecently then so can I.
Just like RMCdaniels did.
Why does everyone always think negative things?
Why cant they be more insightful and willing to help?
I am not trying to brag or whatever but yet do a project that I want.
And really,,, if you have nothing positive to say or post or any suggestions that are of the system.... then please... dont post here...
Maybe there will be a seperate group of people that might want a project to work?
And also...If your a noob and have nothing but useless comment... you are not needed here!
Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
One your car is an Acura not a bmw or VW. And the engine is designed to work around it. VW made a SC/turbo engine and it was dissapointing. Just because they did it means its the best? Keep doing your research.

 

hope you have a TON of money and time, not to mention patience to get it done then fix it when it breaks after 10 miles of driving. the only integra twin-charged i have ever seen was sponsored and built by Meguiar's. you can read about it here and see how much went into it:

http://www.superstreetonline.c....html

in the end it only put out 424 hp, which with the right build is realistic with a good turbo setup, motor build, and tune. but its your money...so if ou do ti more power to you, just make sure you don't half *** ANYTHING

 

just supercharge it.

my friend has a stock 95 gsr with a jackson racing supercharger with stock pulleys and un-tuned and he ran 13.3 in the 1/4 mile (yes he is great driver and has lots of practice at the track, and i witnessed the run, the car was also all stock except for the JR).

what you're tlaking about doing is just silly.. too much money, and such a waste of time.. reliability will not be there.. and you wont get nearly what you'd get out of a nice turbo set up..

if you want to be different.. then do a really nice custom turbo setup that no one has and make it kick ***

 

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Yes it is diffrent and will make you special, and by special I mean the retarded type of special.

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dude, at least hes not doing it behind your back or anything.

to know i dont, thats wasnt an accident.

 

NO stock comp.is great for jrsc

 

if you are wondering wether to do super or turbo throw that turbo in the trash can where it belongs, get boost the rite way. and depending on what fuel your gonna run wether it be 91 or somthing with a higher detention thresholds. do your research. make sure you know CC ur block and Heads and decide what RPM ur gonna be hitting. you will have a happy motor with super a dead motor needing a rebuild with turbo so do the RITE THING!!!

 

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they have millions of dollars invested into engineers to do r&d

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And also...If your a noob and have nothing but useless comment... you are not needed here!</TD></TR></TABLE>

take a peek at your join date

we're giving you suggestions and trying to help you. you have already been told the setup will work and your compression question has already been answered.

you don't need to get butthurt just because people are telling you that it's not an efficient setup. if you don't want to be told, don't post. there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of people who are free to post here anytime they want to and if they voice their opinion don't take it personally