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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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quick question will the tein basic coilovers kit for the dc2 integra fit onto a 92-95 eg civic?
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Yes, it will fit with no problems. Because the 94-01 Integras are essentially the same as the 92-95 Civics suspension-wise, the shocks can swap back and forth easily.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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thanks man, i thought it was only the 96 and up civic
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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your going to throw your spring rate off, it will help a little if you have a swapped b motor in the civic due to the front weight difference
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IsmokeROX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your going to throw your spring rate off, it will help a little if you have a swapped b motor in the civic due to the front weight difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its just a little stiffer than the std rates for EG, and still better rates than stock, but not ideal in any case for a neutral handling car. Most put-together-aftermarket coilovers have a higher front spring rate and lower rear which will push and understeer moreso than a rear-biased setup. Most if not all the fast cars in NASA or SCCA have higher rear rates than front. You saying that 'the spring rate will be thrown off' on what basis do you make this claim? In anycase I dont feel the rates on the tein basics either for the DC2 or EG are performance optimized.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most put-together-aftermarket coilovers have a higher front spring rate and lower rear which will push and understeer moreso than a rear-biased setup. Most if not all the fast cars in NASA or SCCA have higher rear rates than front.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So why are most aftermarket coilovers setup with higher front rate to push and understreer and not optimized for performance? Why don't they add more rear bias in their off the shelf offerings? Is it not good for the street?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Higher rear rates will generate a less comfortable suspension frequency, the up down motion of the suspension. What works well for the track generally will not work well for the street.

There are a few reasons why most aftermarket coilovers put the higher rates in the front, not the least of which is what is mentioned above. But another is to make sure people don't go spinning themselves around every street corner and/or complaining that their cars ride very harshly and is uncomfortable and feels unsafe on the highway.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Its just a little stiffer than the std rates for EG, and still better rates than stock, but not ideal in any case for a neutral handling car. Most put-together-aftermarket coilovers have a higher front spring rate and lower rear which will push and understeer moreso than a rear-biased setup. Most if not all the fast cars in NASA or SCCA have higher rear rates than front. You saying that 'the spring rate will be thrown off' on what basis do you make this claim? In anycase I dont feel the rates on the tein basics either for the DC2 or EG are performance optimized.</TD></TR></TABLE>


well if you look at setups that use lower rear spring rates they use staggerd tires and large rear sway bars with a decent amount of toe.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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To add to what I said, rear spring rate isnt the only way to achieve a push-free setup. Like you mentioned Cory, alignment, tires, sway bars all influence the amount of oversteer a setup will have; I feel that rear spring rate can play the biggest role, but like PIC mentioned, the rear springs pretty much dictate how harsh the ride will feel.
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