What needs to be done to an LS to keep up with a GSR?
you're working w/ 30-35whp less, w/ longer gearing and lower redline. cheapest way is boost, as in bolt on kit. Then you not only able to keep up but beat them. if you want to keep it NA, then usual bolt ons, set of cams + SiR/GSR tranny or 4.785 FD w/ ITR/GSR diff. Or do a B20 + mild cams w/ boltons w/ shorter geared tranny. Basically about $1000-2000 in mods and you can run high 14's.
My favourite mods:
1> lightweight flywheel (10-12lbs is perfect for drag and response)
2> 2.5" header + cat and exhaust
3> cold air intake
4>mild cams
My favourite mods:
1> lightweight flywheel (10-12lbs is perfect for drag and response)
2> 2.5" header + cat and exhaust
3> cold air intake
4>mild cams
Slap a B16 PR3 head with P30 Pistons on that B18B and the do as the other have already stated Si, Type R or GSR tranny....And you will walk all over them!
we need more info. i mean what cars(years) and suck. because i had a 91 RS chassis(with a 93 ls) with I/H and a bit of weight reduction and it would take Gsr's out. my ls was faster not just because of the weight reduction, but also the fact that the 90-91 cars came with a shorter ls tranny with a 4.4FD.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16/Type-r, Gsr transmission, and you'll have a much better chance of keeping up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That will make a big difference.
That will make a big difference.
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i got a b16 tranny w/ lsd and intake, intake mani, header, exhaust. GSRs with mods cant keep up let alone a stock one. just get a b16 trans and see where your at, youd be suprised..
The LS motor is way under rated most opf the time. It's a great motor. Good quality regular bolt on's will get you close. Gearing is deffinately an issue...as already stated.
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I doubt this.
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I almost keep up w/ my friend's bolt-on GSR. Mods are in sig.
I doubt this.
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I almost keep up w/ my friend's bolt-on GSR. Mods are in sig.
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tranny, tune and good bolt-ons
tranny, tune and good bolt-ons
bad *** LS set up
ITR pistons with crower 402 cams, i/h/e
and it'll take out gsr
I know i've seen it...
eg w/gsr i/h/e vs
ef ls w/ls tranny and above set up.
EF won
ITR pistons with crower 402 cams, i/h/e
and it'll take out gsr
I know i've seen it...
eg w/gsr i/h/e vs
ef ls w/ls tranny and above set up.
EF won
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is this true?
is this true?
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is this true?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it actually has longer gears. but it does have a 4.4 fd.
is this true?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it actually has longer gears. but it does have a 4.4 fd.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that one doood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it actually has longer gears. but it does have a 4.4 fd.</TD></TR></TABLE>
has a longer 1-2nd an shorter 3-5th i believe. its a really nice tranny to have.
has a longer 1-2nd an shorter 3-5th i believe. its a really nice tranny to have.
Bolt-ons and a good driver should get you close.
I know my LS beat up on stock GSR's all day at the track. I've pulled a GSR on the freeway too. We'll see what my B20 setup nets.
I know my LS beat up on stock GSR's all day at the track. I've pulled a GSR on the freeway too. We'll see what my B20 setup nets.
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has a longer 1-2nd an shorter 3-5th i believe. its a really nice tranny to have.</TD></TR></TABLE>
after looking for more info, it does have a slightly shorter 3-4
has a longer 1-2nd an shorter 3-5th i believe. its a really nice tranny to have.</TD></TR></TABLE>
after looking for more info, it does have a slightly shorter 3-4
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