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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Welp, today an appalling thing happened when I noticed after changing my brakes, they just weren't as "responsive" as when I first got it.

I was thinking the pads were just worn and needed to be replaced, so I replaced the fronts. The old ones had a lot of life on them still, but I wanted to see what's up. I fired up the car, only to realize I had low brake pressure.

The front pasenger wheel was locked up, and the front driver was fine. I was thinking "wtf? How can pads do this? Maybe I have air in the system".

So, I put the old pads back in, and the brakes were fine again. They still weren't up to par, but they got me to work and back.

This morning, I brought a buddy of mine over to re-bleed the brakes to see what's up. Upon the first wheeel bleeding (right rear), I noticed a huge POP and my buddy said there was no more brake pressure. WTF?

I looked under the car, and saw it. My driver REAR SS line burst, leaking fluid everywhere. I couldn't believe it. I've had the lines for 3 years, thinking how the hell that would happen.

I saw a thread on HT, came to this site: http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Pe...s.htm only to find out it was inevitable.

SO, now my car sits at my house, with a broken brake line, as I research and either get another set of SS lines, try and get another Earls SS brake line, or just go back to OE rubber lines. I only thank God for this not happening on the way back from the NASA Richmond autoX, and also not happened on the street. So that's a good bonus.

Any insight would be GREATELY appreciated.

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-Brandon
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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I've heard of some people having premature SS brake line failure, and others having this "inevitable" failure. I myself had a recent semi-failure (leakage) on one line, and replaced them all with the same thing (Goodridge SS). I got 4 years of use out of them on two different cars, and they're like $100, can't really go wrong there. As long as you keep an eye on them, and accept that they will most likely fail after 3-4 years (might as well replace them after two years, given that, to be safe), go for it.

Alternatively, you could pay way more than that for OEM lines (new) and never worry about it, and maybe suffer some decreased pedal feel. I opted for the SS lines again because I did notice a difference in feel, and I like my brakes nice and hard.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Default Re: Stainless Steel brake lines (Stinkycheezmonky)

STOPTECH lines have gone thru rigorous whip tests for DOT approval. They are 100% tested to insure no leakes as well.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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How long were they on the car?
I've had mine on the car for a few years now but I got them from Oil Filter Service of Portland...which might really use Goodridge lines and fittings anyways. I wouldn't go back to rubber personally.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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you guys relize most factory brake lines are steel braded lines with a rubber coating on them. At least the ones that came off my '95 integra were.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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most?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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My rubber lines were definitely not stainless-braided underneath. That was on an '00 ITR and a '92 Civic CX.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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All I know is my peddle felt much better after going to a full SS line.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed a good amount when I upgraded to SS lines.

Those of you guys with SS lines, what brand do you have and how long have you had 'em?

Just seems odd that my Earls SS lines only lasted 3 years when it has barely any track time.

I ordered OE Rubber lines from acura dealership. Hopefully those will hold up and if not, I'll get another SS set.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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I don't know of any OEM rubber hose with stainless braid in them, but thats the rumor for the future in OEM hose.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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seems that 3 years is about the norm for lines. i recently had one start to leak after WGI. thumbs up to ate superblue for the visual cue between the braided material and the outer coating.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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I use STOPTECH SS-braided lines. 3-years and lots of track time. So far Zero problems.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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goodridge. no problems and great customer service. i broke the tension clip things trying to get them snugger. i called and the guy next day aired them to me for free. probably cost 25.00 in shipping.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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Have anyone used Project Mu? I know there expensive but just wondering. I want to use SS lines but don't want to worry about failure.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nello a. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">goodridge. no problems and great customer service. i broke the tension clip things trying to get them snugger. i called and the guy next day aired them to me for free. probably cost 25.00 in shipping.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll probably have to go with some Goodridge's later on. Wish I ordered 'em sooner.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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i used technafit they have a plastic coating on them to keep dirt out but when ever i change wheels or something i usually give them a quick check to make sure everything is ok.

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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have anyone used Project Mu? I know there expensive but just wondering. I want to use SS lines but don't want to worry about failure. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Never heard of them, but something you should take into consideration ESP. with a performance oriented part. It will rarely perfore like OEM. IT will in a lot of aspects surpass oem, but in the longevity, many fail to get anywhere near OEM.

Bottom line, with any wear related, non OEM item, intend to replace it at a certain point. Alot of things it is hard to tell they have worn. I am on almost 3 years of(forget brand lines) and they still feel great. I already have a replacement set for them, as I fear the outcome of brakes abruptly failing me, entering t5 at summit at non street driving speeds.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by My95SlvrBlt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Bottom line, with any wear related, non OEM item, intend to replace it at a certain point. Alot of things it is hard to tell they have worn. I am on almost 3 years of(forget brand lines) and they still feel great. I already have a replacement set for them, as I fear the outcome of brakes abruptly failing me, entering t5 at summit at non street driving speeds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, that's one hell of a scary thought. That's the last thing I want to worry about lol.
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