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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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I've searched so flame on if there is a thread about this that i couldnt find.

But, can the gc top hats be used with oem ek struts?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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the shocks don't matter as long as you're using them with GC coilovers. Make sure you get ones for 10mm shafts.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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right on bro thanks.

anyone have succes with increased ride quality with GC top hats on there stock struts?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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what does top hats do? do i have to spend the extra money on them?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlh22179tx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does top hats do? do i have to spend the extra money on them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The top hat is the upper purch for the spring to nestle in to. But the GC Top hat has a extended shock mounts so it could have more travel length on a lowered vehicle to optimize suspension travel overall.

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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92eg6lsvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right on bro thanks.

anyone have succes with increased ride quality with GC top hats on there stock struts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would you get better ride quality? With stock shocks(you don't have struts) and springs, all you would do is force a whole lot more preload on the springs. With Stock shocks and aftermarket lowering springs, well in addition to probably being underdamped, you might gain back some shock travel that way. Personally, I'd fix the real problem, using stock shocks on a modified suspension.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would you get better ride quality? With stock shocks(you don't have struts) and springs, all you would do is force a whole lot more preload on the springs. With Stock shocks and aftermarket lowering springs, well in addition to probably being underdamped, you might gain back some shock travel that way. Personally, I'd fix the real problem, using stock shocks on a modified suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>

UNderstood. Ill prolyl end up going with koni yellows and gc's
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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so if it gives more shock travel on a more lowered ride does it mean that once u hit a certain height, you will be better of with the top hat as far as comfort.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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i explain it quite extensively in these threads. dont lose your head over the arguing and rampant ignorance. some ppl just dont get it.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1497161

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1683697
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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So. Can the top hats be used in coordinance with Skunk2 slip ons and stock shocks?(Askin since the one is using with omnis)
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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yes. but you wouldnt want to....

skunk2/omni
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GC top hats
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes. but you wouldnt want to....

skunk2/omni
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LOL AGREED. Would i gain anything from doing this tho.? Just for now until i get gc's
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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are you hitting your bumpstops?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Well basically its ******* bouncy. And sometimes, on the freeway i do bottom out the front. But i my biggest problem is hitting small bumps and bounceing afterwards. My friend has 96 coupe, lowered a little more than me on unknown slip on coilovers(kind of look liek gc's but without the lettering on the sides). But when i drove his car its noticably less bumpy
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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it will not stop the bouncing.

that is a shock (and spring) problem.

and you know why.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Thank you sir
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Why do the top hats only work with GC coilovers? Like the websites says?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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what would you like them to work with?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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Why wouldnt they work with regular drop springs?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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the springs are not designed for it. youd have to preload the spring too much to make them fit, if possible. with standard coilovers, youll have more slack to take up, its usually not an issue. if it is, you get shorter springs.

regular drop springs typically have "dead" coils at the top, depending on maker. they just function to take up space. if you cut those off, then i can imagine it would work, without affecting the spring rate of the spring. but then youd have to make sure you cut enough that ride heights are even.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Confused more now sorry dont get it. i guess Im just not following you.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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because its not made for regular drop springs. thats all.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Gotcha thanks for clearing that up.
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