anyone have any experience with this?

I am in the process of building my h23 for lots and lots of booostttt

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwyndsdime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone have any experience with this?

I am in the process of building my h23 for lots and lots of booostttt </TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you be alittle more specific and big bore for boost? Id go max 89mm and leave room for error

 

well its a 89 mm "wet" sleeve...so its changable if needed.

im building my whole motor...hoping to get 20+ psi

the best part is Im getting all my machine work for free , since I'm doing an internship at a local "racing engine"/machine shop. its the best internship possible.

 

If you are going to run a 89mm bore you will need to run the MID style sleeve. The 300 series sleeve will not work for such a large bore... especially with boost.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The 300 series sleeve will not work for such a large bore... especially with boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have an experience with the 300 series durability?

 

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Do you have an experience with the 300 series durability?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've ran them up to 500whp no problem. I have another build that I'm doing that i'll push them around the 550-600whp marker.

The sleeves are definetely strong... there are ways though to make more power safely on them though. Such as running less timing to decrease peak cylinder pressure.

 

What about the ge 89mm sleeves?
are they capable of handleing 25psi from a t66/garrett gt40??
(tuned of course)

 

i ordered the sleeves today and i also ordered h22 eagle rods and custom arias pistons

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwyndsdime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone have any experience with this?

I am in the process of building my h23 for lots and lots of booostttt </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwyndsdime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i ordered the sleeves today and i also ordered h22 eagle rods and custom arias pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your are totally lost

 

what do you mean im lost? the h22 rod has a longer stroke then the h23, so i ordered pistons with the wristpin moved up the extra 2mm...im not the only one doing this project, i work at a racing engine/machine shop, and my boss is helping me out with it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwyndsdime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you mean im lost? the h22 rod has a longer stroke then the h23, so i ordered pistons with the wristpin moved up the extra 2mm...im not the only one doing this project, i work at a racing engine/machine shop, and my boss is helping me out with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Explain to me why you woulnd't order h23a rods and h23a1 pistons if you are running the h23 block and crank.

The only reason I run the h23 crank with h22 rods and custom pistons is when I'm building a stroker kit.

And just in case you are wondering... there is no such thing as "darton "big bore" sleeves". There are the 300 series and the MID's.

 

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Explain to me why you woulnd't order h23a rods and h23a1 pistons if you are running the h23 block and crank.

The only reason I run the h23 crank with h22 rods and custom pistons is when I'm building a stroker kit.

And just in case you are wondering... there is no such thing as "darton "big bore" sleeves". There are the 300 series and the MID's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i believe by doing this, he will have the stroke of the h23, with slightly better r/s ratio. i played around with this idea when i was building mine. insted i just balanced the **** out if it and went all h23 parts

 

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i believe by doing this, he will have the stroke of the h23, with slightly better r/s ratio. i played around with this idea when i was building mine. insted i just balanced the **** out if it and went all h23 parts</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep. Much easier with using shelf components though.

 

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Yep. Much easier with using shelf components though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There isnt an H23 Eagle rod off the shelf. Maybe thats the reasoning for doing this setup. Maybe crower, but those are pricey as well and are custom order as well from what I remember
The only H23 stuff we stock are Custom Carrillo rods and theres a small market for that since theyre high dollar.

I think the H22 rod, custom piston setup is the easiest way to go. Custom pistons arent that much more than off the shelf pistons and at the same time you can go with any compression you want and wrist pin placement.

 

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There isnt an H23 Eagle rod off the shelf. Maybe thats the reasoning for doing this setup. Maybe crower, but those are pricey as well and are custom order as well from what I remember
The only H23 stuff we stock are Custom Carrillo rods and theres a small market for that since theyre high dollar.

I think the H22 rod, custom piston setup is the easiest way to go. Custom pistons arent that much more than off the shelf pistons and at the same time you can go with any compression you want and wrist pin placement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Scat has the H23a1 shelf rod... which is identicle to the Eagle rods and I've used for 400whp with no problems. Crower of course also has a shelf rod. Carrillo's are actually a bit cheaper than the Crower Billets.

But yea... the way he went wasn't too bad of an idea. It will work... that's what counts.

 

if price is an issue then ya this is one way. i wanted top notch strenth so i went with pauter rods. off the shelf h23 part

 

the reason i went with this setup is because i could only find a crower rod for over $700 , this is the setup my boss suggested, and these are the brand names I could get major discounts on.

 

will you be using CNC equipment to bore the block?