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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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any any suggestion would be great.

i went to an autox for the first time with my R

and R is my first FF car, and never realized FF sucks and how much i suck at driving

Z06 got the best time 55' over ferrari and my best was 65'

is there anyyyy method to avoid understeer????


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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Learn to drive... Haha, kidding.

I used to keep up with the 'Vettes and high grade cars with my nearly stock '94 Civic in H-Stock.

Remember... Faster is not always better, sometimes slower more controlled turns are MUCH more effective. Especially in Auto Cross, where you're typically dealing with tight courses, and high RPM slower MPH turns... You're more likely to just lose traction if you try to kill it through the turns.

Try coming into the turns slower, and save the WOT for the straights. Best advice I can give.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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^---couldn't agree more slow entrance fast exit

I found that turning in earlier helps so if you do understeer you'll stay on course, also a simple upgrade such as falken azenis or if you're feelin like droppin some dollars go with kumho or hoosier r-comp's. They will not eliminate understeer but help cure the tendancies of FF cars.

heres a link to ITR autox tips:

http://itrca.com/FAQ/track/autox.php
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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^ Agreed.

I'd buy some Mazda Millenia wheels, drop the dime on some Kumho V700 R-Compounds, or some Avon Tech-Rs, or some badass tire like that. You'll DEFINATELY notice a huge difference.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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yeah i really want to learn to drive, not to speed
a stock oldy civic si hit 58 +_+
tuning seems like a bs now after lookin at that Si beating a ferrari lol
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Drop the pressures in front and raise pressures in the rear. Simple, cheap and effective way to help with understeer. You'll need to play around with pressures a bit but shoot for a difference of about 5 psi to start and go from there.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Don't go too low... I found that out the hard way.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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i agree with that dropping the pressure in the front will help, but not too much as he said becaus e the tire will come right off the rim. R comps are great but since you are new to autox u should stick with ur street tires for awhile becaus eu will learn alot more about drivin and the endencies of ur car. r comps hide alot of mistakes. Remeber look ahead, brake in a straight line and turn early and most importantly have fun and represent for the integras

i wish i had a R
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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I haven't Auto Crossed the R yet... I guess I'll try to get one in before the season ends. Time to order some Tech-Rs.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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First of all, what model Ferrari was there just outta curiousity?

If you really want to learn the sport make sure you're on Azenis, 215 or 615's. They aren't that different but grip waaaay better than most street tires out there. Don't be afraid to give them 40 psi either.

The most important thing in our cars IMO is to utilize the brakes aggressively- they are very strong so use them early before turn-in. Finding your breaking zones is tough to master, but that comes with seat time.

Plus, you'll want to turn early especially on street tires (Azenis) because the car will slide around the cones the faster you go.

The biggest thing is not to overdrive especially through turnarounds/ pivot cones. You'll lose precious time because you'll be driving a longer line "getting behind" the line you actually need to be following. Autocross is all about setting up for the next element with good car placement. My only FTPax event felt fairly uneventful and I didn't feel like I did that great because I didn't overdrive. But ultimately, it was my best showing because my quickest run was the smoothest.

Lastly, don't be afraid to punch it through long slaloms and lane changes. Our cars can take alot of tossing around before spinning. Especially on 9 year old stock shocks.

Have fun and remember that everyone gets their *** kicked the first few times by the vets but your interest level will determine how quick you will become.

-Matt
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