looking for a header and i dont really know which one of these is better. as for price they all pretty close !! i have spec B cam (toda) so which of those you guys think it's better for me ? i also using mugen muffler too tho

 

Toda

 

Well if you want Spoon or Mugen header? I got some I need to get rid off as it looks I will be joining the arm forces soon.

Spoon 4-2-1 $855 shipped brand new 1 in stock
Mugen 4-1 $855 shipped brand new 2 in stock

 

The Toda header will make more power according to about every dyno chart i've seen. The Mugen is no slouch either to it's credit. I would love to have either one of them.

 

SMSP header

 

everyone says the SMSP but who sells it I've never seen a pic of this header somebody show me what I'm missing.

 

TODA

 

ya does anyone have smsp 's website ? heard a lot ppl says it's good but never see one in person

 

Toda yo

 

Toda

 

same here

 

Another vote for Toda.

 

Toda is Good Stuff and will give you better midrange and high end gain than most JDM headers.
Although The Mugen is also a Nice piece.

 

TODA

 

type one or toda

 

If you are trying to decide between the Toda and a Mugen 4-1, I vote for Toda. If you are comparing Toda and Mugen 4-2-1, that is a different story. The Mugen 4-2-1 was not compared to any of the other JDM headers during the Great Header Test, but it produces big gains in the midrange and still peaks higher than the JDM Honda 4-1. I suspect it would be a very close matchup between the performance of these two headers - I haven't seen the Toda in person so I can't say which has the better build quality.

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I think if you run Toda , you will notice more top end. I am pretty sure you will end up with lot more (useful) hp and torque with the Spoon header.

 

Toda

 

SMSP would be my only choice.

 

 

That seems to be my plan

 

I actually forgot to take a picture of the latest version on Warren's car

But, I've changed 2 of the primary tubes on the drawings already. Maybe Warren could post a couple of the coated header installed. I have some pictures when it was just painted black. I'll try and post some pictures of a B20VTEC header with a modified Moroso oil pan in an ITR tonight.

If I was buying an off the shelf header, I think I'd go with the Toda followed either by the stainless DC JDM (for more top end and a better collector than the Mugen) or the ITR JDM (for more mid range and better ground clearance than the other 4-1s). But I still prefer custom over off the shelf

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=151766

Will
-who is poor and could not afford the T0DA unit..

 

I would also take the Moda over the Tugen.

 

Thanks Willard, I forgot about that link.

The #3 tube is one of the ones I changed in the picture below for clearance for the AC fans. Warren's car is race only so it didn't matter. I now have the custom bent pieces to do #3 for AC equipped cars.