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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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A light rain was falling in MA today, and as I drove around country roads, I tried pushing the car in a few places to see if the back end would EVER come around. Note that I only did this in nice, wide corners, with no traffic around. BTW it's stock in the suspension department (with 95k miles on it). As I'm sure everyone knows, a stock GSR will understeer to the death, but will almost never oversteer. But as I came around one corner (a flat, roughly 70 degree RH, with rough pavement in the middle, wet, but no standing water) the car ploughed heavily, I eased off the throttle a tiny bit, and BANG! the tail of the car came right out! I collected it and drove on no problem, but I was shocked--first that the tail came out at all, then that it came out so suddenly, when the car had been ploughing heavily the moment before. I wasn't going fast--25-30 mph, and I'm pretty sure I was being gentle with the throttle. Has anyone else ever had their Teg do something similar?

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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (darkmonohue)

tends to happen to integra's, especially with suspension modifications (stiff springs and shocks, and a large rear sway bar) you just gotta stay on the throttle, don't lift or jab the brakes, or it will tend to happen again.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (darkmonohue)

you might have hit a slippery spot... or that you were rotating the back end till it finally kicked out....its occassionaly fun but i prefer a more controlled oversteer... where the back end slightly pushes through a turn ....another way to get the back end to kick out is to rock the steering wheel back and forth let it steer wide, than kick it in and let off the front throttle
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Old May 2, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (Taiwanze7)

Most FWD cars tend to exhibit off-throttle oversteer. Letting off the throttle transfers weight to the front tires which causes the rears to let go.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (Taiwanze7)

you might have hit a slippery spot... or that you were rotating the back end till it finally kicked out....its occassionaly fun but i prefer a more controlled oversteer... where the back end slightly pushes through a turn
I prefer a more controlled oversteer myself, which was what was upsetting. It was just weird--I'd been trying to coax the car into oversteer all day, with no success, then all of a sudden, when it had been pushing heavily the moment before, suddenly the tail comes loose. Quite a shock, and made me a little wary of the car's behavior. It could well be that a change in pavement was the cause.

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Old May 2, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (MrFatBooty)

Most FWD cars tend to exhibit off-throttle oversteer. Letting off the throttle transfers weight to the front tires which causes the rears to let go.
I understand the principle, but in my experience, when the car is in the midst of understeer (which it was at the time), easing back on the throttle will cure the understeer without inducing oversteer--I know that if you jerk off the throttle, you can produce oversteer. Maybe I wasn't as smooth as I thought I was. But it was just odd that the car seemed to go from understeer to oversteer instantaneously, without passing through a period of balance.

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Old May 2, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (darkmonohue)

One time I was going around a turn with a slight dew on the road and the tail came around suddenly. I was going 25-30, the tail swung to the left, then the right , then I finally caught it. There was no warning, no understeer or oversteer.
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Old May 3, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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Man I did that in my apartment parking lot one time, coming around the end of the lot (a bit too fast probably), tail end came out... it was scary, I wasn't sure if I would hit the fence to my left or the truck to my right if I didn't get out of it. Yeah it was kinda stupid... I hope nobody saw me.
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Old May 3, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Snap oversteer (darkmonohue)

like it was said before above, it happens to tegs a lot...escpecially with suspension mods.

My car has done that occasionally, but it's not a full blown 360, or 270 even (on dry pavement that is). It's more of a whip out the rear into a power slide. It is surprising, but controllable (provided you don't have cars and close obstacles).
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