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I turned the crank to check if my timing belt was snapped. Do I have to return everything back to TD

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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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I thought that the timing belt was snapped on the car, so I took off the valve cover and turned the crank on the bottom of the engine to see if the belt rotated. Does everything have to be returned to TDC before I start the car?
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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no start it itll be fine, only need to set it at tdc if ur doing the timing belt etc to make sure the cam and crank are lined up properly.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coreyhayman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no start it itll be fine, only need to set it at tdc if ur doing the timing belt etc to make sure the cam and crank are lined up properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Ok, so the now this. The distributor is bad on my car, according to the CEL I threw, which is the CYP sensor. Shouldn't the engine still turn over if I tried to start it? When I did try, nothing cranked over and all I heard was just a bunch of noise.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jus2sho &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, so the now this. The distributor is bad on my car, according to the CEL I threw, which is the CYP sensor. Shouldn't the engine still turn over if I tried to start it? When I did try, nothing cranked over and all I heard was just a bunch of noise. </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you mean a bunch of clicks?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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Not really. It kind of sounds like a drill. If the engine cranks over you can tell because it sounds like an old car that just won't start. In my case it just sounds like a drill. Shouldn't it still crank over?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jus2sho &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not really. It kind of sounds like a drill. If the engine cranks over you can tell because it sounds like an old car that just won't start. In my case it just sounds like a drill. Shouldn't it still crank over?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like the teeth on the plunger of the starter (the part that actually cranks the motor) are contacting with the flywheel, pull your starter out and take a look at it. Might need a new flywheel too.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TriniTech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sounds like the teeth on the plunger of the starter (the part that actually cranks the motor) are contacting with the flywheel, pull your starter out and take a look at it. Might need a new flywheel too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and you might as well check the inside of the dizzy. Take it off the motor, tkae off the cap followed by the rotor then look at the first sensor. Thats the actaul CYP sensor.. check for damaged edges on the part that spins as well as the sensor.

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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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I just replaced the distributor and the car still won't start. What exactly am I looking for when I take off the starter?
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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The teeth that come out ..... see if theres any missing and or damaged, and i would also check the flywheel... and make sure that you put the dist. onin the correct position, it can go in the wrong way and wont fire up.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Thanks to all for helping this noob out! I took the starter out to see if it was missing teeth and it looks good. I haven't inspected the flywheel yet, but will soon. Here are my questions as of right now before I troubleshoot some more.

1. Let's say that the flywheel was missing a few teeth. Wouldn't the engine still be able to start for a short time?

2. Also, how do I know if the distributor is in the correct position? I lined it up in the same position as the old one. Is there an alternative way to be totally sure?

3. If my starter was bad, would the engine still crank over?

Thanks again to all who have helped thus far!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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1. Let's say that the flywheel was missing a few teeth. Wouldn't the engine still be able to start for a short time?
If the flywheel is missing teeth, the starter won't be able to turn the engine over. The piece on the starter with the teeth, pops out when the starter is energized, (i.e. you turn the key to start the car). The teeth then mesh with the ones on the flywheel and the starter spins the flywheel to turn the motor over. If there are no teeth to contact with, the motor won't crank.

2. Also, how do I know if the distributor is in the correct position? I lined it up in the same position as the old one. Is there an alternative way to be totally sure?

Set your engine at TDC, remove the dist. cap and see if the rotor lines up with #1 on the dist. cap. refer to the firing order.

3. If my starter was bad, would the engine still crank over? no

You should try picking up a helm's manual if you can, they can be a big help.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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where do you live?
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