Cold Air Intake
Hello all,
Yes, I'm an idiot when it comes to cars. However, I should learn a few things by visiting this forum.
Any way, I was surfing the web and noticed alot of after market parts for my 2000 Civic sedan. That said, the Cold Air intake thingy caught my eye. Well, not literlaly.
1) Is it worth buying one?
2) Wich is best for me?
3) Wich one is the best?
I have my eye on the N/k Cold air intake. Would it actualy give the car more HP and little better fuel economey? I use my car for delivers and the city I live in has quite a few hilly roads. I thought mayby, with a little more HP, that it would help me in the long run. Would this sound correct?
Thank you in advance.
Yes, I'm an idiot when it comes to cars. However, I should learn a few things by visiting this forum.
Any way, I was surfing the web and noticed alot of after market parts for my 2000 Civic sedan. That said, the Cold Air intake thingy caught my eye. Well, not literlaly.
1) Is it worth buying one?
2) Wich is best for me?
3) Wich one is the best?
I have my eye on the N/k Cold air intake. Would it actualy give the car more HP and little better fuel economey? I use my car for delivers and the city I live in has quite a few hilly roads. I thought mayby, with a little more HP, that it would help me in the long run. Would this sound correct?
Thank you in advance.
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AEM are the best, and you will gain an unnoticealbe amount of HP, it is a better filter so fuel economy should improve also, as long as you keep the filter clean. It will also give your exhaust a lower note. If you're not going to do anything else then just go for a k&n drop in filter for your factory airbox, unless you want it for the looks or are planning on doing other mods down the road.
yes, your right, you will learn alot from this website. it has a wealth of information. But you need to know how to use it. Before you ask a question, you should search and see if it has been covered.
For instance, if you search Cold Air Intake, you will find 957 threads. Yes, that is alot of threads, yes, alot of them will not answer your question, but you will find your answer. Make sure to search, that way we dont have to look through 1000 pages of worthless crap to find an answer.
Now, I will answer your questions:
1. not really, buy a short ram intake, they are cheaper and will net about the same HP, i.e. 0-2 HP
2. AEM is a respected company that makes intakes. Theres are not bad. Others will swear by different brands. If you just want an intake, nothing fancy, AEM FTW. If you want something that looks fancy, you can find carbon fiber intakes and what not too.
3. see #2
you really wont notice much gain, the only gain in power you will notice will be on the ever unreliable *** dyno. Intakes are fine and all, they just wont get you much power. They are a great place to start if you are just getting into working on your car
For instance, if you search Cold Air Intake, you will find 957 threads. Yes, that is alot of threads, yes, alot of them will not answer your question, but you will find your answer. Make sure to search, that way we dont have to look through 1000 pages of worthless crap to find an answer.
Now, I will answer your questions:
1. not really, buy a short ram intake, they are cheaper and will net about the same HP, i.e. 0-2 HP
2. AEM is a respected company that makes intakes. Theres are not bad. Others will swear by different brands. If you just want an intake, nothing fancy, AEM FTW. If you want something that looks fancy, you can find carbon fiber intakes and what not too.
3. see #2
you really wont notice much gain, the only gain in power you will notice will be on the ever unreliable *** dyno. Intakes are fine and all, they just wont get you much power. They are a great place to start if you are just getting into working on your car
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldn't waste my money on an intake for a sedan, your first stop for power should be a swap/nos/or turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well fast and the furious did a good job selling the holley name but any brand of nitrous oxide would work fine.
Well fast and the furious did a good job selling the holley name but any brand of nitrous oxide would work fine.
That might work if I had a convertable. Then my face would be more smooth, wind would more easly pass by my face, leaving it feeling cool and refreshed while increasing MPG and HP.
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Less restrictive air flow will net you better gas mileage and more horsepower....You might go with the Intake, really anyone should work as long as it has a good filter on it. You might get exhaust and header. If you aren't really conscerned that much, don't waste your money on this stuff that will give you 10hp and will cost you a lot more money.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldn't waste my money on an intake for a sedan, your first stop for power should be a swap/nos/or turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, for non-stop power use nitrous...in a daily driver...
Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.

If you want to, go for it, it won't make much of a diff in ur hp but it might give u a half mile per gallon extra or something to that effect. Like somebody else mentioned it'll make your engine sound a lot deeper due to the lack of resonator.
A short ram will do both of those + give you a better throttle response (faster). They're also hell of a lot cheaper.
Regular short ram pipe with a K&N filter on the end if it and you should be good to go. Might notice a bit of difference..but it's not gonna be throwing you into your seat or anything. Despite what everybody says I've noticed differences in power and throttle response when putting it on completely stock D-series cars. So there is a definate difference...but it's like 1-2hp.
Also, the CAI won't do **** for your tq. as a daily driver, it doesn't start to give u that 1-3 hp until about 4k RPM's...more of a higher RPM more tq. deal. To get the most out of the straightest line possible get a short ram, it's a lot more ideal in terms of price (they're real cheap), constant power (even if it's 1hp) throughout the entire power band oppose to more piled up at the redline, about 80% chance LESS of hydrolocking your engine as it's possible on a CAI if u hit a puddle hard enough (hydrolocking your engine = totalling it), it's shorter so better throttle response...
In the end I say it's a better deal all around.
Though like I said, it won't exactly press you into the seat, but if you drive your car every day and have driven that car for awhile you will notice a difference regardless of how many people tell you otherwise. It will be very small, but you'll notice it.
Doubt you'll be comparing 30mpg to 35mpg gas tickets though.
Yes, for non-stop power use nitrous...in a daily driver...
Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.

If you want to, go for it, it won't make much of a diff in ur hp but it might give u a half mile per gallon extra or something to that effect. Like somebody else mentioned it'll make your engine sound a lot deeper due to the lack of resonator.
A short ram will do both of those + give you a better throttle response (faster). They're also hell of a lot cheaper.
Regular short ram pipe with a K&N filter on the end if it and you should be good to go. Might notice a bit of difference..but it's not gonna be throwing you into your seat or anything. Despite what everybody says I've noticed differences in power and throttle response when putting it on completely stock D-series cars. So there is a definate difference...but it's like 1-2hp.
Also, the CAI won't do **** for your tq. as a daily driver, it doesn't start to give u that 1-3 hp until about 4k RPM's...more of a higher RPM more tq. deal. To get the most out of the straightest line possible get a short ram, it's a lot more ideal in terms of price (they're real cheap), constant power (even if it's 1hp) throughout the entire power band oppose to more piled up at the redline, about 80% chance LESS of hydrolocking your engine as it's possible on a CAI if u hit a puddle hard enough (hydrolocking your engine = totalling it), it's shorter so better throttle response...
In the end I say it's a better deal all around.
Though like I said, it won't exactly press you into the seat, but if you drive your car every day and have driven that car for awhile you will notice a difference regardless of how many people tell you otherwise. It will be very small, but you'll notice it.
Doubt you'll be comparing 30mpg to 35mpg gas tickets though.
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Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.

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True on the supercharger but i like the turbo because of the ease of kicking up the PSI. even if he was all city, if he got a small turbo and kept the piping small he'd boost well enough to get better gas while having a hellova lot more kick. He doesnt have to reach full-boost to get advantages from boost.
Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.

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True on the supercharger but i like the turbo because of the ease of kicking up the PSI. even if he was all city, if he got a small turbo and kept the piping small he'd boost well enough to get better gas while having a hellova lot more kick. He doesnt have to reach full-boost to get advantages from boost.
to answer your question it is not worth it and if u do buy one or make one for that matter make sure it is no more than 30 dollars cause thats how much it is worth. no offense. but use the search button we all used it as beginners and still use it know.
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if you dont have to worry about being carb legal (i.e. california) just go with an ebay intake for like 20 bucks and a K&N filter for like 40. it will save you money and it will be just as good for your situation as an AEM or other name brand intake.
i would not worry about hydrolocking your engine with a cai aslong as you don't run into floods and be smart. my only thing i dislike about my cai, is that its a pita to clean the filter since its all the way down there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ATEJ8FTW »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would not worry about hydrolocking your engine with a cai aslong as you don't run into floods and be smart. my only thing i dislike about my cai, is that its a pita to clean the filter since its all the way down there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to bring up the issue of the intake sucking water. If you do decide to get a CAI, and drive on the interstate in the rain, you should get a bypass valve. I was on a long trip in heavy rain and my CAI started taking up water. I noticed the engine missing a bit and knew what it was, but the people that were driving along with me didnt slow down when i signaled them. Then I heard a loud boom, my car blew out a big cloud of smoke and died. Luckily I just let it sit for a few minutes and it was ok, but I invested in the air bypass valve after that and didn't have any problems. This does not apply with the short ram, however. Also note that I had removed all the plastic in the wheel wells and under the car (splash guards).
Good to bring up the issue of the intake sucking water. If you do decide to get a CAI, and drive on the interstate in the rain, you should get a bypass valve. I was on a long trip in heavy rain and my CAI started taking up water. I noticed the engine missing a bit and knew what it was, but the people that were driving along with me didnt slow down when i signaled them. Then I heard a loud boom, my car blew out a big cloud of smoke and died. Luckily I just let it sit for a few minutes and it was ok, but I invested in the air bypass valve after that and didn't have any problems. This does not apply with the short ram, however. Also note that I had removed all the plastic in the wheel wells and under the car (splash guards).
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatsthatnoise »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also note that I had removed all the plastic in the wheel wells and under the car (splash guards).</TD></TR></TABLE>
mmm thats asking for trouble
mmm thats asking for trouble
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, for non-stop power use nitrous...in a daily driver...
Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you sure this is correct? I was always under the impression that the supercharger consumes more energy than it provides at low RPM levels thereby decreasing gas mileage. This is the case for all supercharger kits that I investigated for my BMW 325i anyway -- they decrease gas mileage.
I asked about it here:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com...31710
The answer seems to be a definitive "no" on gas mileage increase with a supercharger. Those folks know alot more than I do about forced induction, unless you guys know something else -- in which case I'd love to hear about it since I was bummed about the fuel mileage decrease of supercharging.
Also, since he's all city driving he doesn't have **** of a chance of spooling up the turbo to actually save him gas, a super charger would be more efficient for saving gas in his situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you sure this is correct? I was always under the impression that the supercharger consumes more energy than it provides at low RPM levels thereby decreasing gas mileage. This is the case for all supercharger kits that I investigated for my BMW 325i anyway -- they decrease gas mileage.
I asked about it here:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com...31710
The answer seems to be a definitive "no" on gas mileage increase with a supercharger. Those folks know alot more than I do about forced induction, unless you guys know something else -- in which case I'd love to hear about it since I was bummed about the fuel mileage decrease of supercharging.
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