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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Default Tuning w/ VAFC on non-VTEC Engine....

I got all of the wiring done, now I'd headed to the dyno.

The question is how is everyone using the Hvt and Lvt (High Cam and Low Cam) when tuning? Are you tuning in both of them? Do you adjust the VTEC engagement point to a RPM higher than the redline (ie. 8500 on a D16a6), then just tune using the Lvt?

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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After reading my manual more, and putting more though into it.... I think I would want to use both the Hvt and Lvt so I can adjust more precisely (16 different RPM's vs. 8 if I use only Lvt).

Secondly, I'd looking to get the most out of my mid-range (where the car spends most of it's time), so I would probably want to concentrate more adjustable RPM's in that area...

Here are the RPM's that I'm thinking about....
Lvt RPM's
1000, 2000, 2500, 2800, 3200, 3500, 3800, 4200
Hvt RPM's
4500, 5000, 5500, 6000, 6500, 7000, 7500, 8000

Am I on the right track here????
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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set vtec at 9k and just tune the lower map
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">set vtec at 9k and just tune the lower map</TD></TR></TABLE>Does that mean that my idea above won't work?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Tuning w/ VAFC on non-VTEC Engine.... (Mugenlude)

yeah it would work, imo you should get just a chiped pm6 and tune it via turboedit. Either way is fine.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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^^^ that is a very good idea... that was the plan... I have a chipped ECU, but I don't have the equipment to tune with and I don't know how to use TurboEdit yet (and no one in my area)... so the VAFC I have laying around is going to have to do for now (SCCA Nationals is next week)...

Tuning w/ TurboEdit is the plan for the next season
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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cool check out pgfmi.org for more info on turbo edit
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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yeah, I'm on that site learning... it was going to get done, but the engine decided to spin a rod bearing, so all the time/money that was planned for TE learning went out the window...
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah it would work...</TD></TR></TABLE>Would I still set the VTEC engagement point really high if I'm going to use both the Lvt and Hvt??? Or would I want to set it between the Lvt and Hvt (ie. 4300 in my example above)?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would I still set the VTEC engagement point really high if I'm going to use both the Lvt and Hvt??? Or would I want to set it between the Lvt and Hvt (ie. 4300 in my example above)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah that would work at vtec point it changes from low map to high map
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Thanks for all the help, I appreciate it!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Just wondering, what you have done with the a6? If it's got a good amount of upgrades like high cimpression, port work, cam etc. you might want to focus on going with turbo edit as soon as you can.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks for the concern, however, we are only allowed basic bolt-on parts in STS class...

CAI, Header, crank pulley, stock cat, dump pipe, and ECU tuning... Asside from that it's rebuilt to factory service limits.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the concern, however, we are only allowed basic bolt-on parts in STS class...

CAI, Header, crank pulley, stock cat, dump pipe, and ECU tuning... Asside from that it's rebuilt to factory service limits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

now in sts can you run an std hatch with a a6 swap?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now in sts can you run an std hatch with a a6 swap?</TD></TR></TABLE>Not anymore. 2 years ago you could, but the rules were changed to disallow modifications such as that.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Tuning w/ VAFC on non-VTEC Engine.... (Mugenlude)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not anymore. 2 years ago you could, but the rules were changed to disallow modifications such as that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that has to suck, now u must find an si to build. i know a6 swaps are plentyfull and beaten stds for cheap
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Yeah, the Si's are hard to find now. The main issue is that people were building STD/D16a6 combo because the STD doesn't have a sunroof (lighter), and it would become 'the' car to have and they didn't want everyone to have to do engine swaps.

You can run a STD w/ D16a6 in Street Prepared though because they are on the same line....
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