I am thinking of lowering my car an inch or so, nothing to drastic. I was wondering if any of you have had to install a camber kit or need to because of the tires butterflying. I dont want to be going through tires left and right. Thanks, any input is appreciated.

 

I wouldnt worry about it with a minimal drop such as the comptech springs or HFP. I have the comptech spring w/o the camber kit and i havent seen asny unusal wear yet.

 

The HFP kits are designed not to need a camber kit.

You will notice that the camber changes; however, Honda feels that the net overall effect is one that guarantees safe handling. Having more camber on the rear, when coupled with the spring rates, produces a generally safe attitude in all handling situations.

If you want your car to turn in faster, then you can install a camber kit on the front to get more camber. You will not have extra tyre wear at any setting you are likely to want for the street (up to about 3 degrees negative). If you do this, your overall handling will be better but the car will be more difficult to drive fast safely, and you will have to know more what you are doing and know more about trailing throttle oversteer and how the car will react in adverse situations.

When you change the suspension, regardless of what you pick for your change, remember that you will need a good, all wheel laser alignment designed to compensate for any incidental changes to car's total overall thrust.

 

Comptech recommends a camber kit as per their site

http://www.comptechusa.com

 

Normal crash bolt front camber adjusters. Unless you are an experienced racer who knows how to do this without affecting the car's total track and thrust, I really recommend you have an experienced alignment specialist install these, preferably someone with experience doing racing alignments.

No offence intended. Bad alignments are the number one reason for suspension dissatisfaction. You end up w/a situation where the front and rear are fighting each other, and sometimes you just cannot fix it w/a backyard string setup.

It won't be cheap, but a good racing alignment after your installation will ensure that you are not ending up with one of those weird alignment situations.

 

yeah, go with a camber kit with the comptechs. Not so much the front, but def. the rear.

 

if your just lowering it an inch,you really dont need the camber kit,but if your lowering it more than an inch,you definitely need the kit

 

WELL!!!
Not really, I got my car aligned when I lowered
it with the Tein S-tech springs. -1.4 front -1.3 rear
The guy that was doing my alignment told me
that the rear would only get a slight wear and said
I wouldn't need a camber kit. But I got a camber
kit anyways so I would feel more better about my
tires.

 

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The guy that was doing my alignment told me
that the rear would only get a slight wear....</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to have a lot more camber than that for any wear to be attributed to the camber setting.

If you are getting unusual wear, it's not because of the camber.

What can happen when you lower a car is that the four corners are not lowered equally and the technician needs to be very careful, therefore, with the alignment. If the front and rear are aligned separately by a small garage, you could end up in a situation where either the car feels like it's pulling to the left or right, or in order to get the car NOT to feel like that they have adjusted so that the front track and rear track are fighting each other to get the car to travel in a straight line.

In that case, you WILL get weird tyre wear and you won't understand why it's happening.

If you change your car's height, there is really no substitute for a good laser "racing" four-wheel alignment to include the car's total overall thrust.

 

The Civics have alot of camber anyway. 1.4' isnt going to make that much of a differance.

 

I just bought the Teins on e-bay today. Half of these posts say yes, half say no. I know it's RECOMMENDED but can I get away with no camber kit or do I **** off the girl again and make another purchase.

 

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1. check if they are real Teins
you can see how to confirm that on http://www.tein.com

2. Tein has a decent drop so you will need a camber kit

3. see #1

 

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1. check if they are real Teins
you can see how to confirm that on http://www.tein.com

2. Tein has a decent drop so you will need a camber kit

3. see #1</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks Mike,
I saw Teins site last week and saw the fake ones. Even though I got em on e-bay, The store was karuma motoring. Trouble is, you don't really know until you have them in hand