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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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My car is missing the plastic cover under the L, front and R fender. This helps protect water from splashing into the intake. Well i'm missing that and the intake box. It had it. Me dumb took it off. I drove the other day and it was raining. How much damage if any at all could this cause. It has a after market open filter and stock intake no cover box. I drive a delsoldohcvtec. Oh, and the car is lowered.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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if ur intake sucks water into the engine ur engine could go into hydrolock......... correct me if i am wrong
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if ur intake sucks water into the engine ur engine could go into hydrolock......... correct me if i am wrong </TD></TR></TABLE>

we got a winner. worst thing that can happen is that you need a new engine. not too shabby.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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waterlock or electrical damage.

If water spashes around it can roast a sensor or short some wires - I've seen that happen.

Also, if more than a table spoon of water gets sucked up ur intake, ur engine is fucked.

Although as how likely I'm not sure b/c I don't understand ur setup:
"It has a after market open filter and stock intake no cover box"

"Well i'm missing that and the intake box"

From putting those 2 together I think that ur saying you have an aftermarket regular filter on a stock intake arm w/ no resonator?

If that's the case the likelyhood isn't too high....maybe a picture...or maybe somebody else that knows exactly what ur talking about could tell me - I dunno. It sounds like u took ur resonator out and took the air intake filter box and replaced it w/ an aftermarket cone filter. Like I said, if that's what happend then it's still in the top - likelyhood is low.....but I'm probably wrong b/c ur just saying "no box" or "these pipes" and I'm confused to how exactly u have it set up :-P
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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It's not like I drove into a pond. The intake sits above a metal part with a hole for air and next to the heallights and wall.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Does your car not drive fine? any unordinary ticking noise?


If you answered no to the above questions your car is fine. Just make sure you buy a stock intake and you will be fine. driving in the rain with an aftermarket intake will cause hyrdolock and your pretty much done.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Em1Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does your car not drive fine? any unordinary ticking noise?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if nothing out of the ordinary now than you will be fine, just make sure you don't press your luck-- hydrolock is definitely a possibility
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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I bought from OK. I drove it thru this real hard storm about 30 minute or 40min I then stop this was a month ago. I arrived in MN with no problem.. It already had a small ticking sound when I bought . BUt the compression test read 196 ,180,180 and 180. I been driving it to work with no problems. I drive oneway 50 miles to work. It is just a concern. I been using the top cover of my integra to put under the intake.


This is how it was in that storm when I drove from OK to MN.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAX PAYNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought from OK. I drove it thru this real hard storm about 30 minute or 40min I then stop this was a month ago. I arrived in MN with no problem.. It already had a small ticking sound when I bought . BUt the compression test read 196 ,180,180 and 180. I been driving it to work with no problems. I drive oneway 50 miles to work. It is just a concern. I been using the top cover of my integra to put under the intake.


This is how it was in that storm when I drove from OK to MN.
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you should be fine with that... the only real cases of seen where people have experienced hydrolock has been when their cold air intakes have become submerged in water. but then again, that's just me
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks man! Now I can relax and feel much better.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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I don't think a single person in this thread has a ******* clue what hydrolocking is or what makes it happen.

A.) your intake setup is fine and you won't hydrolock that EVER. Not ever. Unless you drive - literally - into a pond and submerge your air filter completely, you will be fine.

B.) hydrolocking happens when a LOT of water makes its way into your intake manifold and, as per normal, down into the cylinders. Large volumes of liquid water will not compress to the satisfaction of the moving pieces of the engine, thus bending and generally destroying the rods and/or valves as the engine cycles over in an attempt to run normally. If you drive over a substantial puddle and splash a little water into the engine bay, you'll be fine. If you have a dumped car and you drive into a rain ditch, you'll hydrolock.

C.) you don't even need to consider the possibility of hydrolocking your car unless it's equipped with a cold-air intake and sits substantially lower than stock.

You could also search for the 8 million threads posted by people in this forum about this topic The only engine I've ever seen fail because of hydrolock was a Dodge Caravan that popped a headgasket and strangled on its own coolant. Smashed a spark plug and snapped a rod in half, spilling all of the coolant into the oil pan.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The only engine I've ever seen fail because of hydrolock was a Dodge Caravan that popped a headgasket and strangled on its own coolant. Smashed a spark plug and snapped a rod in half, spilling all of the coolant into the oil pan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good god
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think a single person in this thread has a ******* clue what hydrolocking is or what makes it happen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I saw this about 10 minutes ago but decided I shouldn't waste my energy or IQ on this crap.

I (unknowinly) bought a hydrolocked y8 block before. From the top it looked okay, but once I took the bottom end apart, a rod had snapped in half and then shot through the block.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think a single person in this thread has a ******* clue what hydrolocking is or what makes it happen.

A.) your intake setup is fine and you won't hydrolock that EVER. Not ever. Unless you drive - literally - into a pond and submerge your air filter completely, you will be fine.

B.) hydrolocking happens when a LOT of water makes its way into your intake manifold and, as per normal, down into the cylinders. Large volumes of liquid water will not compress to the satisfaction of the moving pieces of the engine, thus bending and generally destroying the rods and/or valves as the engine cycles over in an attempt to run normally. If you drive over a substantial puddle and splash a little water into the engine bay, you'll be fine. If you have a dumped car and you drive into a rain ditch, you'll hydrolock.

C.) you don't even need to consider the possibility of hydrolocking your car unless it's equipped with a cold-air intake and sits substantially lower than stock.

You could also search for the 8 million threads posted by people in this forum about this topic The only engine I've ever seen fail because of hydrolock was a Dodge Caravan that popped a headgasket and strangled on its own coolant. Smashed a spark plug and snapped a rod in half, spilling all of the coolant into the oil pan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was thinkin he was using his stock intake box and he didnt have the box on there just the intake tube........ sorry
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Simple Green is your friend. So is coolant/anti freeze.
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