FULL-RACE SUMP
I need some help I have search and yes I have found info but I really haven't found much of anything useful enough I need to speak to people about sumping the gas tank and find out whose running the setup and how did they do it...Some issues I have seen are vapor locking, gas sloshing around and causing mechanical issues...I recently had my welded and all we did was cut the shape of the <U>full-r</U>ace sump out of the back part on bottom of tank and welded it on had the tank pressure tested and everything came out good well now I am hearing that you should have drilled holes in the tank kinda screened it instead of cutting it completely out so now I am redoing it and wanna do it right (PLEASE HELP)
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So obviously, I have to drill holes in the bottom of the tank and then weld the sump over that.(instead of cutting it out) What size holes do you drill and how many?
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Is that a full race sump?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Is that a full race sump?
id like to know somthing. if u sump the tank then just have it sit around for a few months like in the garage, do you have to then worry about rust in the tank ?
I made my sump myself.... Full-Race style....



I don't have updated pics of it all welded up, but I did not go with F-R because I needed a 12AN outlet on the sump. I wanted to take full advantage of my Eliinator fuel pump.
Here is the pump mounted too with fuel lines run....





I don't have updated pics of it all welded up, but I did not go with F-R because I needed a 12AN outlet on the sump. I wanted to take full advantage of my Eliinator fuel pump.
Here is the pump mounted too with fuel lines run....


not with those, but other ones like competition engineering, you do because they are just plain jane mild steel. Mine is getting surface rust in it, im going to have to prolly sand it and flush it before i can use it, once gas is in there its all good. Plus i never plugged it off. BLEH.
any issues with vapor lock or sloshing around doing it this way with the hole drilled how is everyones setup working out what problems did you run in to after running it.....
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I think those two words paired together wered banned
I think those two words paired together wered banned
If you searched, I'm sure you've seen the way Scott and I do it, but incase you haven't here's a couple pics... And as far as the return, I don't have any resized pics loaded up, but I'll try to get one ASAP. Pretty simple though (and something we changed on one of the last SFWD cars we did), just welded a -10 fitting onto the bottom, front side of the tank, and ran the return straight into it. That's as apose to going back over the tank, which when you're running anything decently big line (that has requires big fittings), doesn't fit under the OE fuel pump access plate in the back of the car.
P.S. - Incase you can't tell, it's a Comp. Engineering sump.


EDITED: Return line pic...

Modified by Kataku2K3 at 11:04 AM 8/16/2006
P.S. - Incase you can't tell, it's a Comp. Engineering sump.


EDITED: Return line pic...

Modified by Kataku2K3 at 11:04 AM 8/16/2006
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I think those two words paired together wered banned
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LOL... He treated me well, but then again I am a sponsored car, so I can't speak for everyone
I think those two words paired together wered banned
</TD></TR></TABLE>LOL... He treated me well, but then again I am a sponsored car, so I can't speak for everyone
So just weld a 10an fitting straight in front more on bottom or more up top for the return I kinda see how you did it.. would you be able to send some better pics of exactly how that looks(JLHDOHC83@COMCAST.NET) and also would this work with the full-race style sump kit no issues running like this..also what is everyone doing for the fuel pump as far as running goes max flow or are you using the aeromotive fuel pump controller I was told its not needed
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you searched, I'm sure you've seen the way Scott and I do it, but incase you haven't here's a couple pics... And as far as the return, I don't have any resized pics loaded up, but I'll try to get one ASAP. Pretty simple though (and something we changed on one of the last SFWD cars we did), just welded a -10 fitting onto the bottom, front side of the tank, and ran the return straight into it. That's as apose to going back over the tank, which when you're running anything decently big line (that has requires big fittings), doesn't fit under the OE fuel pump access plate in the back of the car.
P.S. - Incase you can't tell, it's a Comp. Engineering sump.


EDITED: Return line pic...

Modified by Kataku2K3 at 11:04 AM 8/16/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you searched, I'm sure you've seen the way Scott and I do it, but incase you haven't here's a couple pics... And as far as the return, I don't have any resized pics loaded up, but I'll try to get one ASAP. Pretty simple though (and something we changed on one of the last SFWD cars we did), just welded a -10 fitting onto the bottom, front side of the tank, and ran the return straight into it. That's as apose to going back over the tank, which when you're running anything decently big line (that has requires big fittings), doesn't fit under the OE fuel pump access plate in the back of the car.
P.S. - Incase you can't tell, it's a Comp. Engineering sump.


EDITED: Return line pic...

Modified by Kataku2K3 at 11:04 AM 8/16/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Look at my pics above. I welded a 6AN line fitting to the top of my fuel pump cover and have a tube going to the mid section of the tank.
Look at my pics above. I welded a 6AN line fitting to the top of my fuel pump cover and have a tube going to the mid section of the tank.
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Look at my pics above. I welded a 6AN line fitting to the top of my fuel pump cover and have a tube going to the mid section of the tank.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So pretty much run a 6an braided line from top of old fuel pump cover to motor and what not any modifications to the old fuel pump cover cutting the old bracket off for the old fuel pump or leave it
Look at my pics above. I welded a 6AN line fitting to the top of my fuel pump cover and have a tube going to the mid section of the tank.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So pretty much run a 6an braided line from top of old fuel pump cover to motor and what not any modifications to the old fuel pump cover cutting the old bracket off for the old fuel pump or leave it
anyone worry about rust from the welds also? OT anyone get any paint in there tank ever when re painting there tank i have a friend that just did that and i did not know if that was a really bad thing to do. we wanted to make sure the holes for the sump would not rust if he did not use the tank right after he sumped it so he rattle canned it very mildly with high temp paint
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is this an incorrect way of running the lines as it has to make an uphill climb before it hits the pump? wouldnt this increase chances of vapor lock and starvation?
</TD></TR></TABLE>is this an incorrect way of running the lines as it has to make an uphill climb before it hits the pump? wouldnt this increase chances of vapor lock and starvation?
















