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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Which is the better of the two?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which is the better of the two?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i personally have always believed the helms manual to be more comprehensive than others available on the market.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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I have a Haynes and that provides me with all the info I need
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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The Service Manual is all you will ever need. And they are free.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Helms hands down. A Haynes is kind of a broad overview.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Helms hands down. A Haynes is kind of a broad overview.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hate my Haynes.

It's ******* worthless IMO. I can get onto HT and find what I need as opposed to using a Haynes, which goes into no detail.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigRonDawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Service Manual is all you will ever need. And they are free. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is true... thanks to me....
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

this is true... thanks to me.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Helms manuals are NOT to be posted here. Just a heads up.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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i use Haynes because it's all we have at our local auto parts stores. i've become very familiar with it. between that book and my common sense, i've found 90% of what i need, without coming to h-t. i also have the service manuals no my comp, but i don't know my way around it very well.. so it can be frustrating.
i'd say anything is better than nothing.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which is the better of the two?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The manuals printed by Helm Inc. are the official Honda factory service manuals used by dealership technicians. They are more comprehensive with the specifications and procedures needed to disassemble, inspect, repair, and reassemble the car.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/pr...C0CTF - the best $62 you will spend to start wrenching on your Honda.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Helms manuals are NOT to be posted here. Just a heads up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i know...
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Helms manuals are NOT to be posted here. Just a heads up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what's that maen? What u mean "posted here" ??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The manuals printed by Helm Inc. are the official Honda factory service manuals used by dealership technicians. They are more comprehensive with the specifications and procedures needed to disassemble, inspect, repair, and reassemble the car.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/pr...C0CTF - the best $62 you will spend to start wrenching on your Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, 62 bux...no wonder the other one's not as good, it's only 17...

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigRonDawg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Service Manual is all you will ever need. And they are free.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hrm, service manual? You mean the one that comes with the car .. err.. ?? WHere do you get a free service manual that covers all of that stuff...?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hrm, service manual? You mean the one that comes with the car .. err.. ??</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you're thinking of the owner's manual (which Helm Inc. also prints for Honda, by the way). He's talking about the service manual (the one I linked you to).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHere do you get a free service manual that covers all of that stuff...?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can't. Legally.

Just buy the manual from Helm. You'll be glad you did.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


You can't. Legally.

Just buy the manual from Helm. You'll be glad you did.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the man speaks the truth.. helms
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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I personally own both manuals, Haynes and Helms. I use the Haynes for easy stuff, Helms when I need more comprehensive information. You can find the Haynes on the web if you look hard enough; I'd send ya mine but it's against the rules here. BEFORE YOU FLAME... remember some of us DO live in the projects, and just because I don't have $60 doesn't mean I don't deserve to fix my car
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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If you can afford the car and the parts for it, you can afford the manual to fix it.

Helm manuals can also be purchased used for less money in the H-T Marketplace and on eBay.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The manuals printed by Helm Inc. are the official Honda factory service manuals used by dealership technicians. They are more comprehensive with the specifications and procedures needed to disassemble, inspect, repair, and reassemble the car.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/pr...C0CTF - the best $62 you will spend to start wrenching on your Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have heard this too. Thats why I want one. to helms
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't. Legally.

Just buy the manual from Helm. You'll be glad you did.</TD></TR></TABLE>


actually this is untrue. if you go to the torrance library you can actually borrow alot of the popular books.

hence.. torrance library is about 5 minutes away from the honda headquarters... the library has those books due to honda donating it to the library.

you can also check any p2p network ive posted all the manual on there aswell...

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Alright, thank you all, specially cxSHOE
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Hanes are what you wear

Helms is what you read
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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I checked a Haynes manual out at the library when I was first starting out working on my civic. I was confused as heck about setting the idle speed. First off the instructions were for a manual tranny, I had an auto. Plus, it said "unplug the iac valve" it showed a picture of the throttle body with the MAP and TPS on it also. I was unplugging the map sensor thinking it was the iac! I got a factory manual and discovered with an auto tranny you set the idle speed with the IAC still connected

There were a couple other mistakes in there, but I can't remember what they were. I avoid Haynes now.
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