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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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ok, so here's the deal.

did the MPFI swap in march/april. shortly after the swap the temp guage quit working -- ok so i figured thermostat had gone sour. so tonight replaced the thermstat -- still no temp. the needle sits RIGHT at the top of the "C" and thats where it stays.

now i figure its got to either be the cluster (which i doubt), or the sending unit. Now, my question is where is the sending unit?

Anyone have any other ideas for me? I havent had a temp gauge since the MPFI and i'd love to get it back and operational. Anyone have any ideas??
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Green plug, if the gauge is spiking then its a bad ground.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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yeah its not spiking, its just not working..


but i recall looking at the motor today while hanging the thermostat and that plug was unplugged. i remember plugging it in, so it must have come unplugged. thanks!!
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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Hey!

That was my picture!

I'm glad it's still being used!

makes it sooooo easy, if you ask me.


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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:05 AM
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have u tried a differant sending unit?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:33 AM
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Mine is spiking. I replaced the red one in the picture. Do I need to replace the others also?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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marquis, if its spiking, read he said:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Green plug, if the gauge is spiking then its a bad ground. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Hey, 7PSI CRX did or do you own a Teal Si with a JRSC?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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lets not hijack this thread please.


ok, so thats not the issue -- it is plugged in, and its plugged in correctly -- i think. either way, it doesnt matter what way i plug it in, it still doesnt work. what is the correct way? black/yellow on top, or yellow on top?



Modified by 2fast4udude at 1:20 PM 8/2/2006
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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**** **** **** -- i'm colour blind guys. bare with me.

ok, so i'll go check that in a minute. the first picture, i saw the light blue i guess it is as green, and completely looked over the other sensor there.


sooo what is the blue sensor, and what ways are the wires supposed to be onit?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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blue = fan thermoswitch
green = guage cluster temp
red = engine temp sensor for the ecu
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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ok, so what way should the 2 wires on the fan thermoswitch be? black/ywllow on top or bottom?

thanks guys.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fast4udude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, so what way should the 2 wires on the fan thermoswitch be? black/ywllow on top or bottom?

thanks guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shouldnt matter, it just completes the circuit.

why are you messing w/ the rad fan thermo switch???

the sensor for the temp guage in the cluster is G R E E N (the middle one color blind boy!)
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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lol like i said, my eyes didnt even seen the coolant sending unit on that 1st picture, all i saw was the fan thermoswitch and thought that was it... blonde moment. but yeah, all is well

i'll be testing the wiring harness and then the sending unit after i post this, and then going to buy the sending unit if thats the issue
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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great picture 90blackcrx.........

where can i buy the rad fan thermoswitch from? honda or autozone?

thanks
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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It works again. I went to the junkyard and pulled one from a car. Just wanted to make sure before I bought a new one. Installed it and no more spiking. Thanks for the help and the great picture.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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ok, so heres my question NOW...

i figured the random check engine light was my o2 sensor, and i blamed the crappy gas mileage on that took. well yesterday i replaced the o2 and still, shitty mileage and random check engine. the ECU says nothing more than code 20, which is electric load, which is associated with the MPFI swap, i know that much.

my question, wil a faulty coolant temp. sender cause a loss of about 100-150 miles /tank and a random check engine that goes away immediatly?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:40 AM
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actually, is your ECU from the USA? because in Canada we dont have a Electric load detector in (they are normally in the fuse box).

which coolant temp sender? the ecu 1 will / can cause poor milage.

have you been resetting the ECU after checking the codes? (remove hazard fuse in engine bay box for 15 seconds or so).
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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how do u guys actually remove the rad fan thermoswitch&gt;? i can't get any tools down there. do i have to remove the IM first ?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VeilSide_Mas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do u guys actually remove the rad fan thermoswitch&gt;? i can't get any tools down there. do i have to remove the IM first ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you tried getting to it from below?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fast4udude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my question, wil a faulty coolant temp. sender cause a loss of about 100-150 miles /tank and a random check engine that goes away immediatly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the coolant sending unit that sends the temp to the ecu would though.

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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so its either bad ECU or the engine temp sensor to te ECU is bad? i've got to get this fixed today, these gas prices are killing me...

i know code 20 doesnt matter -- thats not an issue for me anyway. it doesnt give me a check engine light, just throws code 20 all the time. no big deal.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fast4udude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so its either bad ECU or the engine temp sensor to te ECU is bad? i've got to get this fixed today, these gas prices are killing me...

i know code 20 doesnt matter -- thats not an issue for me anyway. it doesnt give me a check engine light, just throws code 20 all the time. no big deal. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, if it was the engine temp sensor you would have that code. I was just stating the temp sending unit won't make your gas mileage worse.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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ell, i replaced both coolant temp sending units today, and the check engine is gone (so far) and the gas mileage is WAY up again. so it was one of thos 2 things
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