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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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I searched and didn't find anything people so don't yell at me. If I get a GSR, toss in a jdm ITR LSD, sturt bars, sway bars, i.h.e, will the GSR handle as well as the ITR? and will the i.h.e. make up for the power diff between the ITR and GSR? I'm looking for a daily and I thought RSX...well ITR is better, then I thought I can save myself some dough if I can just put on some bolt on's onto the GSR and make it ITR level. Also should I bother getting a spoon chip or ecu/will it actually do that much?


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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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get ready for the immature replies.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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I didn't think it was that dumb of a question. And I did indeed search.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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by the time you get everything to make your car as good as a R you might as well have bought a type R
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n3o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I searched and didn't find anything people so don't yell at me. If I get a GSR, toss in a jdm ITR LSD, sturt bars, sway bars, i.h.e, will the GSR handle as well as the ITR? and will the i.h.e. make up for the power diff between the ITR and GSR? I'm looking for a daily and I thought RSX...well ITR is better, then I thought I can save myself some dough if I can just put on some bolt on's onto the GSR and make it ITR level. Also should I bother getting a spoon chip or ecu/will it actually do that much?


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Post this question in the ITR forum. They love these questions and know the ITR's very well

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Yes, it is certainly possible to modify a GS-R to outperform a stock ITR.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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Well figure the car is going to get the ever living hell beat out of it. And a GSR with the stuff I listed wont come near to an ITR's price....at least the oversaturated price.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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stock for stock a rsx-s is a better match to the itr than the gsr,

you could make the gsr handle as well or better than a itr, you just have to know what your doing, and know how to drive,

if you can afford and garage the itr then go for it, but if you dont have either dont even bother it will get stolen asap.

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Just buy an R for all that, by the time you get it all done you could of bought the car.... An R is structually stronger than the GSR platform, and the lack of a sunroof helps its strength too.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just buy an R for all that, by the time you get it all done you could of bought the car.... An R is structually stronger than the GSR platform, and the lack of a sunroof helps its strength too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get an RS and throw some bracing on it.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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RS + lots o suspension

then get a B16 SWAP and use the head and tranny. Boom, ya got an ITR *** kicker!
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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I wouldnt get an R unless you have a garage but you stated as a daily driver so be careful i would get securtiy to the max on that.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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As far as security goes, it was talked about in another thread. I do have a garage but my parents park their cars in it. I am not really concerned about the car getting stolen at my housing being that I live in a cul de sac in a very upscale neighborhood (cheapest house is about 600k), plus no one really knows me in this town, moved here 3 years ago.

As far as comparing stock for stock, I made another thread asking about that. The question in this one is if I add the mods I listed, would a GSR be at the same level as an ITR.

And finally, no sunroof=nono. My Talon has no sunroof and I HATE it.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dforce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get ready for the immature replies. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n3o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I searched and didn't find anything people so don't yell at me. If I get a GSR, toss in a jdm ITR LSD, sturt bars, sway bars, i.h.e, will the GSR handle as well as the ITR? and will the i.h.e. make up for the power diff between the ITR and GSR? I'm looking for a daily and I thought RSX...well ITR is better, then I thought I can save myself some dough if I can just put on some bolt on's onto the GSR and make it ITR level. Also should I bother getting a spoon chip or ecu/will it actually do that much?


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ITR is lighter, since it doesn't have moonroof, rear window wiper, sound insulation.
ITR is stiffer, the rear subframe is stronger, the trunk is reinforced, the B pillars are reinforced, front strut bar is stiffer, etc... link
ITR engine is a gsr, with mild port and polish, raised compression, IM designed for high end power, better flowing exhaust, cams, etc...

So, in answer, yes you can make a GSR faster and handle better than a stock ITR, but there are some inherent advatages the ITR has that you'll have to overcome. And no, IHE won't make up the power difference, it will take more than that.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ITR is lighter, since it doesn't have moonroof, rear window wiper, sound insulation.
ITR is stiffer, the rear subframe is stronger, the trunk is reinforced, the B pillars are reinforced, front strut bar is stiffer, etc... link
ITR engine is a gsr, with mild port and polish, raised compression, IM designed for high end power, better flowing exhaust, cams, etc...

So, in answer, yes you can make a GSR faster and handle better than a stock ITR, but there are some inherent advatages the ITR has that you'll have to overcome. And no, IHE won't make up the power difference, it will take more than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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i/h/e/testpipe will barley make your car 180hp to motor...handling wise i dont know if a lsd/itr struts will make a gsr handle as good as a type-r...type-r just owns in handling out the factory.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n3o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as security goes, it was talked about in another thread. I do have a garage but my parents park their cars in it. I am not really concerned about the car getting stolen at my housing being that I live in a cul de sac in a very upscale neighborhood (cheapest house is about 600k), plus no one really knows me in this town, moved here 3 years ago.

As far as comparing stock for stock, I made another thread asking about that. The question in this one is if I add the mods I listed, would a GSR be at the same level as an ITR.

And finally, no sunroof=nono. My Talon has no sunroof and I HATE it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


You can't have an attitude like that. Real thieves will see you when you're driving your car and they WILL follow you home and the car WILL get stolen. We're not talking about punk kids or your neighbors here...professionals will see the ITR when you're driving it around and will track it to your house. Trust me (I had my car stolen at school out of the parking lot) you have to be incredibly paranoid when it comes to owning that car. I know it sucks that high theft rates have to dictate what you should buy but like I mentioned in your other thread about this, just go with the RSX-S because it's much safer with the factory immobilizer. Furthermore, the RSX-S and the ITR are very close when it comes to performance but the Type S wins in a straight line and its better powerband makes it better for auto-x as well.
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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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disagree to people saying u should just get an ITR... the R is all hype.. all i did to my JDM GSR was skunk2 cams stage1, skunk2 intake manifold, I,H,E a JDM ITR tranny and a chip p28 and i walked all over type R'z easily
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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If you are debating on weather to get a gsr or a itr i suggest you get a itr anyday and yes a type r is way superior to a gsr.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SIR-G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">disagree to people saying u should just get an ITR... the R is all hype.. all i did to my JDM GSR was skunk2 cams stage1, skunk2 intake manifold, I,H,E a JDM ITR tranny and a chip p28 and i walked all over type R'z easily</TD></TR></TABLE>

you might "walk over" a stock R in a sraight line but a stock R will run circles around you on the track
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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^ He aint lyin
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integtonx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you might "walk over" a stock R in a sraight line but a stock R will run circles around you on the track</TD></TR></TABLE>
that doesnt matter because i only drag
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SIR-G &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that doesnt matter because i only drag</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that's the case, you could almost certainly have built a far quicker car for less than the cost of your modified GS-R. The ITR was never designed or intended to be a drag racer, and stating that an ITR is "all hype" is making an uninformed comment.
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