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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Default Water Wetter; Advantages and Drawbacks?

I am located in Arizona and as the temp. is going up these days I can feel that the car is more sluggish. I wanted to flush the radiator system and put a combination of radiator fluid and water wetter in it.

Here is my dilema:

What mix should I go with? As I said I am in Arizona so it rarely gets cold and so I would think a 70% water wetter and 30% radiator fluid mix would be good.

What are the advantages to using more water wetter and what are the disadvantages?

Should I not use radiator fluid at all and use water instead with the water wetter?

Any help is appreciated as always.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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it works quite well. just throw the whole bottle in with just water.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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can you use Antifreez with the water wetter?
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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yes, but using antifreeze reduces the effectiveness of the water wetter.
If you are in an area that gets really cold, then antifreeze is a must.
otherwise, i wouldnt use anything but water
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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Chris, When we did my radiator I added almost two bottles to a 75/25 % water/antifreeze mix. Hope this helps.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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Wait, so then pure water by itself is the best?

Then does water wetter just allow the water to work more effectively?

I am a little confused here.

Can someone explain what water wetter exactly is and what it does, and how to use it.

Thanks!
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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I wouldn't run pure water for the simple fact that you need some chemicals in there to keep things clean... Antifreezes have additives in them. Does the Water Wetter?
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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http://www.redlineoil.com/products.htm
Your questions are all answered there....(under the water wetter category anyway....)
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Water wetter does not protect against corrosion....thats why they reccomend at least a 15% mix of antifreeze for street cars.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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Water wetter does not protect against corrosion....thats why they reccomend at least a 15% mix of antifreeze for street cars.
{quoting redlines website...}Red Line WaterWetter® will provide the proper corrosion inhibition for all cooling system metals, including aluminum, cast iron, steel, copper, brass, and lead. {/quoting redlines website}
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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well that was imformative
I'm gettin soem h2o wetter
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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I was going by what a good friend of this shop told me and the staff here....oh yeah he is the Redline representative for Arizona.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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-10% Honda Antifreeze - for corrorion prevention, and to keep the water pump a little lubricated.

-90% Publix Distilled Water - water transfers heat much better than antifreeze. Distilled water keeps you from getting mineral deposits in your radiator which reduced efficiency.

-One bottle Redline Water Wetter - Improves cooling efficiency even further.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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I do and have been doing as SGT said every summer up here in NYC. half bottle of water wetter with 100% H2o in my cooling system.

I also am using a 160-170 degree thermostat with a spoon radiator cap...with several coolant bypasses as well.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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yes, but using antifreeze reduces the effectiveness of the water wetter.
True ...but antifreeze is also good for anti-boil.
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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I am going to be doing the install of a Mugen thermostat in my car next week. Mugen radiator cap is already in place. Would using the Redline Water Wetter and distilled water have any drawbacks at all? Should i re-use some of the coolant that is currently in my cooling system (the coolant in the system is only about 4 months old) along with the water wetter and distilled water?

thanks a bunch
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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when i put in my m00gen thermostat , fan switch and cap about 3 weeks ago i went
60 % distilled h20 40% honda coolant and a bottle of WW

water is what absorbs the heat and WW increases it's ability to do this but honda's coolant increases the boiling point to over 200 degrees F .
i did some searches (back when the searches worked) and remember Warren saying he doesn't know any road racers that go with pure water + WW

also, i'd replace your coolant when putting in the m00gen stuff personally
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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rather than waste your money on a mugen thermostat, you can buya generic one that opens earlier for 15dollars at pep boys
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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-10% Honda Antifreeze - for corrorion prevention, and to keep the water pump a little lubricated.

-90% Publix Distilled Water - water transfers heat much better than antifreeze. Distilled water keeps you from getting mineral deposits in your radiator which reduced efficiency.

-One bottle Redline Water Wetter - Improves cooling efficiency even further.
Agree 100% this is the mixture I used.

yes, but using antifreeze reduces the effectiveness of the water wetter.

True ...but antifreeze is also good for anti-boil.
That is exactly why I used the antifreeze. My engine sees 95 degrees Celcius max temps which is 210 Farenhiet.

Don't forget water alone boils at 212 F.



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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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damn trey
talk about bringing a thread back from the dead!

do you think 10% coolant will raise the bp sufficiently though?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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do you think 10% coolant will raise the bp sufficiently though?
not much... but the pressure inside the 'system' will raise it a lot.

Will
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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here is one thing I figured. my peak temps were 95 degrees celcius. if I went to less coolant and more water I hope to see a drop in temps where boiling is les of a concern. with lower temps and a little coolant I feel like I have a cooler running engine with enough of a saftey buffer to prevent any freezing or boiling issues.

Presure wasn't even considered but this is a great point. I don't have any formulas handy but H2O boiling is based on pressure so you might be ok with no coolant. I like coolant for freezing/corrosion/and boiling advantages so I see 10% as a small advantage.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Water Wetter; Advantages and Drawbacks? (Asahi)

hehe I just posted a thread similar to this one

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=205114

On the bottle it says to use at least 15% of coolant. That's what I'll be using instead of the 10% but that's all up to you guys what you want to use. Just letting it be known what it says on the bottle and what redline recommends for a street vehicle


:edit:
I realize that 5% is not a big diff







[Modified by Paul Walker, 4:34 PM 6/12/2002]
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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:edit:
I realize that 5% is not a big diff
Technically, that's 50% (15 is 5 more thant 10, 5 is 50% of 10).


V. - who never had boilover so doesn't see the point, really... but is a Red Line ***** so he's running the 15/85/half-a-bottle formula
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