I finnaly got an EP3. And lowering it is the first on my list of things to do, however this is my daily driver so I don't want anything too extreme where it's too stiff, and I also need to be able to raise it once winter comes so it's not too low for driving in snow. I am just looking for something very solid, the feel and look is more important for me than the "performance" aspect of the drop. Any advice on what to get would be great.

 

go with mugen and call it good.......not too low and not a monster truck. performance wise they are the best

 

HFP

 

Mugen has him paying $1100. HFP (honda factory performance) can be had for about $650. In your case im guessing that you would want coilovers. I bought 32 way dampening adjustable Ksports. That cost me $780 shipped. Perfect for me because like you NY has ridiculous winters. You should come over to http://www.ephatch.com It's all EP's and has any info that you could possibly ever need and then some. Check it out: http://www.ephatch.com

 

Oh I forgot to mention that the K-sports also have adjustable camber plates in the front.

 

yeah what he said
i heard many good things about Mugen nonadjustable coilovers
spoon also has nonadjustable dampers for 750 or so but springs come separately so it adds up to be the same price as mugen's

 

For my $ the HFP was about as cost effective as I could find. I dont know if they still have any left, but I got a great deal from College Hills Honda on ebay. I think I got the whole setup shipped for $500 or $550. You may also want to check with Norm Reeves Honda, I have had some good deals with those guys also.

The drop isnt huge, about an inch, but for the ep's goofy suspension arrangement you dont want to go very much lower. I think consensus around here is an inch and a half is the largest drop to use before you start to get side effects.

Dont know if any of this helps, just my feedback on using HFP coilovers on a DD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by giff74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For my $ the HFP was about as cost effective as I could find. I dont know if they still have any left, but I got a great deal from College Hills Honda on ebay. I think I got the whole setup shipped for $500 or $550. You may also want to check with Norm Reeves Honda, I have had some good deals with those guys also.

The drop isnt huge, about an inch, but for the ep's goofy suspension arrangement you dont want to go very much lower. I think consensus around here is an inch and a half is the largest drop to use before you start to get side effects.

Dont know if any of this helps, just my feedback on using HFP coilovers on a DD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

HFP are NOT coilovers. They are a strut/spring combo.

 

i would get tein springs, not a big big drop just perfect and you wont scrape all over.

 

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He'll need struts then too.

 

HFP = ~1" drop
Mugen = ~1.3" drop

not much of a difference, but the mugen is a bit stiffer.

both can be found used with low mileage on ephatch.com

i know chris_air_force is selling his HFP.

i have the HFP and love it. my commute is 100mi roundtrip, so i wanted something more sporty than stock, but forgiving enough that my body wouldn't hurt when i got home. the price of the HFP is very attractive (Even at full price). OEM Honda parts!

 

you have to join ephatch to view the post but here it is:
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/s...02871

 

or tein basic. ~900 from showstoppers.

pic from ephatch.com of civicchris:
http://img.photobucket.com/alb...9.jpg

perfect drop imo.

 

You probably should have made your last 3 posts 1 post. Also dont get the tein basic, there is no dampening adjustability. Get the Ksport if you want a coilover. Its only $780 shipped, its 32 way dampening adjustable. They are really nice quality units.

 

where'd the guy go?

 

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HFP are NOT coilovers. They are a strut/spring combo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Technically, they are coilovers. Coilovers are defined as a strut/shock within a spring. So yes, even the OEM units are coilovers.

Folks get the terminology confused all the time.

 

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Folks get the terminology confused all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fine, then the HFP is not an Adjustable coilover. I say this so that the orginal poster doesnt go and order the HFP thinking he can adjust the ride height on what most people do not consider a coilover suspension.

 

hey, i guess i am still a bit confused about what to get even after all that. the 2 main things i am looking for is something that is not too rough a ride, and something that can make it through the winter without me hating life

 

As far as a pre-matched set of springs & shocks, I'd say to go with HFP.

Mugen is a good choice, too, even if it's on the pricey side. The nice thing is that there's really not much that I'd want to adjust even if I could (I've got a set myself). Plus, they're made by Showa, the same manufacturer of the OEM Honda parts (and HFP version), just to Mugen's tuning specs -- so you can expect a similarly long lifespan.

Each one is progressively less floaty, more controlled, and with more direct feel for the pavement. If the pavement sucks, though, you'll feel more of its crappiness, too.

Speaking as a fellow "salt belt" driver, I'm going to say that an adjustable suspension would become pretty difficult to keep clear of rust and grime and other heinous road junk. i'd definitely consider such a setup if I could race often, lift my car at home, and drive a beater for the winter. But, since I can't do any of those things and since my EP is a daily driver, I pretty much decided against an adjustable kit.

Ride quality? You can probably fool anyone into thinking that the HFP is the stock suspension (anyone but drivers of stock EPs, anyway). You could still fool people with Mugen, but they'll just think that it's a sporty car anyway and expect some stiffness in its ride.

There are other drivers around who have paired up their own choices of shocks & springs, but I can't remember which setups were the good ones. Hopefully some of them will post here.