HELP!! grinding sound, smoke coming out of timing belt cover, puddle of water!!

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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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I just got back from picking my parents up from downtown when I notice a weird grinding or rattling sort of sound.. at first I thought it was the alternator belt but when I popped the hood there was a small bit of smoking that looked like it was coming out from the timing belt cover or somewhere under it. There's a small puddle of water right under on the ground.

Here are some pics, you can kind of make out the splash of water:





What is this? Water pump? I'm assuming I can't drive it now until it's replaced?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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time for a new water pump
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">time for a new water pump</TD></TR></TABLE>

And for god's sake, degrease the damn engine bay. Have fun
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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I may not have much knowledge when it comes to repairing Hondas, but that is definately the water pump. If it is making the awful grinding noise, don't think about driving it unless you want to end up fixing a lot more than just the water pump. Make sure to check your timing belt to see if it needs to be replaced while you have it all apart
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90_EF_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And for god's sake, degrease the damn engine bay. Have fun </TD></TR></TABLE>

Heh, I was planning on cleaning it soon

So how much for new water pump?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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a gajillion dollars
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a gajillion dollars</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice, I just need to save up 24 life times.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Itu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I may not have much knowledge when it comes to repairing Hondas, but that is definately the water pump. If it is making the awful grinding noise, don't think about driving it unless you want to end up fixing a lot more than just the water pump. Make sure to check your timing belt to see if it needs to be replaced while you have it all apart</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I have no other means of transportation and my mom still wants to go out somewhere. I'm going to take a look at the t-belt and hope to god it's not f*cked up already so my valves aren't gone aswell. It seemed to have been driving fine on the way home.. arg
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suck my DX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a gajillion dollars</TD></TR></TABLE> damn, you got a deal, i payed 13 gajillion....

They cost like 25 bucks with lifetime warranty from advance or autozone...probably like 45 from honda (guesstimate)
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> damn, you got a deal, i payed 13 gajillion....

They cost like 25 bucks with lifetime warranty from advance or autozone...probably like 45 from honda (guesstimate)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet, I was expecting some high price or something, thank god. Time to find my bike and ride down to the nearest Crappy Tire. My uncle has some air tools so hopefully the crank pully bolt won't be a b*tch to loosen.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rayzian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nice, I just need to save up 24 life times.</TD></TR></TABLE>

29 with inflation.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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hey whats going on... i recently just changed my water pump and timing belt about 1 month ago in my 89 civic hatch.. it cost 39.99 from kragen for the water pump and 27 for the timing belt.. i would rec. changing both since u already have both apart... it only took me about 1 hour to do it all... its very simple
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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that happend to me before, water pump it was
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Default Re: HELP!! grinding sound, smoke coming out of timing belt cover, puddle of water!! (xx89civicracer8

I just got back from Crappy Tire and it was $60 bucks CDN for a rebuilt one and like $75 for a brand new one they had to order. I got the rebuilt one since I can't really wait since this is my DD and I have work tommorrow.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xx89civicracer89xx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey whats going on... i recently just changed my water pump and timing belt about 1 month ago in my 89 civic hatch.. it cost 39.99 from kragen for the water pump and 27 for the timing belt.. i would rec. changing both since u already have both apart... it only took me about 1 hour to do it all... its very simple</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm.. I hope I have enough for a timing belt, lol



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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Default Re: HELP!! grinding sound, smoke coming out of timing belt cover, puddle of water!! (xx89civicracer8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rayzian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got back from Crappy Tire and it was $60 bucks CDN for a rebuilt one and like $75 for a brand new one they had to order. I got the rebuilt one since I can't really wait since this is my DD and I have work tommorrow.


Hmm.. I hope I have enough for a timing belt, lol
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holy hell thats a lot, thats probably more than honda charges...
oh wait, is that in canadian? lol
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xx89civicracer89xx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey whats going on... i recently just changed my water pump and timing belt about 1 month ago in my 89 civic hatch.. it cost 39.99 from kragen for the water pump and 27 for the timing belt.. i would rec. changing both since u already have both apart... it only took me about 1 hour to do it all... its very simple</TD></TR></TABLE>OEM Honda water pump is around $50 and timing belt is less than $50 - those $27 timing belts from CSK will usually last about 10k miles or less
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM Honda water pump is around $50 and timing belt is less than $50 - those $27 timing belts from CSK will usually last about 10k miles or less</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well i run with my timing cover off (the top part) and the belt seems to be holding up VERY well... no problems at all.... and its a nice goodyear belt...
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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i've got 15000 on my belt maybe 10000 it look good a month ago.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Just be lucky they last for as long as they do, and thats a pretty long time. A new water pump you can get for at LEAST 50$ i believe at advance?, correct me if im wrong, but anyways it's not a big deal and pretty simple to replace. One more thing though, imo whenever i have replaced a waterpump on my car or some else's, i always changed the T-belt "timing belt" while i was in there anyways, and a t-belt is like 25$ tops i think.
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