some questions on 2L engine...
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some questions on 2L engine...
just wondering... has anyone here tried b20 block with b18c crank and rods? along with 85mm pistons.... just read on some mags and they said its powerfull... any idea? also is there any issues with this setup? we're talking around 12:1 CR...
need feedback from u guys..
thanks
need feedback from u guys..
thanks
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Re: some questions on 2L engine... (SLOW-EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering... has anyone here tried b20 block with b18c crank and rods? along with 85mm pistons.... just read on some mags and they said its powerfull... any idea? also is there any issues with this setup? we're talking around 12:1 CR...
need feedback from u guys..
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
heh...i don't think they made as much power as my motor did though on socal 91 octane gas with cast ITR pistons (11.5-11.8:1)
need feedback from u guys..
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heh...i don't think they made as much power as my motor did though on socal 91 octane gas with cast ITR pistons (11.5-11.8:1)
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Re: some questions on 2L engine... (SLOW-EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the hp? how about the time down the 1/4mile?
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i don't even know if i should post my dyno sheet up on here again...people are getting sick and tired of it already i think
1/4 mile time depends on the driver...90% of the time; 10% of it is the motor.
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i don't even know if i should post my dyno sheet up on here again...people are getting sick and tired of it already i think
1/4 mile time depends on the driver...90% of the time; 10% of it is the motor.
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ah well.. im new here...
hopefully u can help...
and yeah just wondering and want to compare the result....
coz im building new engine here... also this stuffs is kinda pretty new in my country...
hopefully u can help...
and yeah just wondering and want to compare the result....
coz im building new engine here... also this stuffs is kinda pretty new in my country...
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ahhh okay...
my b18c gsr block with b16a head.. srp pistons cr 11.5:1 along with stock rods, toda b cams, jun valve springs, p n p, etc etc
that setup had almost 240hp.... to be exact its 236hp...
for the 2L i was thinkin is that any possible looking at around at least 270-290hp?
oh yea, running on avgas.. i think its around 100octane...
my b18c gsr block with b16a head.. srp pistons cr 11.5:1 along with stock rods, toda b cams, jun valve springs, p n p, etc etc
that setup had almost 240hp.... to be exact its 236hp...
for the 2L i was thinkin is that any possible looking at around at least 270-290hp?
oh yea, running on avgas.. i think its around 100octane...
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Re: (SLOW-EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my b18c gsr block with b16a head.. srp pistons cr 11.5:1 along with stock rods, toda b cams, jun valve springs, p n p, etc etc
that setup had almost 240hp.... to be exact its 236hp...
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236 on Toda B's and 11.5?? I'm callin bullshit until I see a graph.
A 2L motor? Check this: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1523615
And a little smaller motor but equally as impressive: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1604889
my b18c gsr block with b16a head.. srp pistons cr 11.5:1 along with stock rods, toda b cams, jun valve springs, p n p, etc etc
that setup had almost 240hp.... to be exact its 236hp...
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236 on Toda B's and 11.5?? I'm callin bullshit until I see a graph.
A 2L motor? Check this: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1523615
And a little smaller motor but equally as impressive: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1604889
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236 hp? i say b/s. 81mm bore? hell no. u got a graph? but chances are ur not gonna hit the 270-290 whp range without lots of money and lots of work. alot of people struglle to get in the 230-240 whp range. also, if ur car did make 236, what kind of dyno was it on?
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Re: some questions on 2L engine... (SLOW-EK)
for my setup, here's the following recipe:
B20B block
RS ITR cast pistons 84.5mm bore with rings
ARP rod bolts on stock B20 rods
polished and balanced B20 crank
new ITR oil and water pumps
GSR head with full Portflow head work (valve job, valve train, retainers...etc.,)
Blox B cams
modified oem head gasket
RC 370 injectors
JG Victor X intake manifold and 70mm throttle body (port matched)
RMF race header (i still need one Randy...this one isn't even mine y0 )
Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch and aluminum flywheel
Quaife tranny with 4.78 FD
Hondata S300 with 2 step
motor was broken in hard on ProStreet's dynojet. i've seen this motor rev up to over 9000 rpms (still making power over 9,000) on their dynojet...much props to the engine builder:
Eugene Castro
B20B block
RS ITR cast pistons 84.5mm bore with rings
ARP rod bolts on stock B20 rods
polished and balanced B20 crank
new ITR oil and water pumps
GSR head with full Portflow head work (valve job, valve train, retainers...etc.,)
Blox B cams
modified oem head gasket
RC 370 injectors
JG Victor X intake manifold and 70mm throttle body (port matched)
RMF race header (i still need one Randy...this one isn't even mine y0
)Clutchmasters stage 4 clutch and aluminum flywheel
Quaife tranny with 4.78 FD
Hondata S300 with 2 step
motor was broken in hard on ProStreet's dynojet. i've seen this motor rev up to over 9000 rpms (still making power over 9,000) on their dynojet...much props to the engine builder:
Eugene Castro
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Re: (SLOW-EK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep its on engine dyno guys...
its 81,5mm bore srp pistons
i will post the engine dyno guys...
anyway, yeah at the moment i need some infos on b20 vtec engine and what should i do :D</TD></TR></TABLE>
whats your vtec x-over point?
Btw , most guys here use whp #'s not engine dyno.. Thats why some were skeptical of your #'s at first.. Still seems high for that setup but the plot is impressive none the less.
See my posts for a combination that will net you the 280crank power your looking for.. Mine did 258 whp corrected 267 actual.. Its my old dart motor.
its 81,5mm bore srp pistons
i will post the engine dyno guys...
anyway, yeah at the moment i need some infos on b20 vtec engine and what should i do :D</TD></TR></TABLE>
whats your vtec x-over point?
Btw , most guys here use whp #'s not engine dyno.. Thats why some were skeptical of your #'s at first.. Still seems high for that setup but the plot is impressive none the less.
See my posts for a combination that will net you the 280crank power your looking for.. Mine did 258 whp corrected 267 actual.. Its my old dart motor.
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b20vtech: well we'll see after i got my dyno result... but then new to wait coz the car is doing a new paint job... yeah we'll see..
acydphryck: thanks for the info..
Tbone: vtec x-over point is @ 5500rpm.. ahh well here in indo we use different dyno system.. well the car was alrite down the 1/4mile... its on EG Sedan and 13.8sec with only falken azenis and stripped the interior.. ill have a look to ur posts... thanks again for the info...
acydphryck: thanks for the info..
Tbone: vtec x-over point is @ 5500rpm.. ahh well here in indo we use different dyno system.. well the car was alrite down the 1/4mile... its on EG Sedan and 13.8sec with only falken azenis and stripped the interior.. ill have a look to ur posts... thanks again for the info...
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Re: some questions on 2L engine... (acydphryck)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acydphryck »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i don't even know if i should post my dyno sheet up on here again...people are getting sick and tired of it already i think
1/4 mile time depends on the driver...90% of the time; 10% of it is the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeh, post it, but please post the SAE graph this time.
i don't even know if i should post my dyno sheet up on here again...people are getting sick and tired of it already i think
1/4 mile time depends on the driver...90% of the time; 10% of it is the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeh, post it, but please post the SAE graph this time.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLOW-EK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">smsp: can u ship header overseas? im also interested on ur header.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, via US Mail. It seems to be the cheapest.
Got a H22 Header going to Australia tomorrow.
The only thing you have to watch out for are box size restrictions. You can check out http://www.usps.com/ for more info. I got a big headache last week trying to send an exhaust system to Portugal. It seems they only allow "smallish" boxes.
Modified by SMSP at 11:11 PM 6/13/2006
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, via US Mail. It seems to be the cheapest.
Got a H22 Header going to Australia tomorrow.
The only thing you have to watch out for are box size restrictions. You can check out http://www.usps.com/ for more info. I got a big headache last week trying to send an exhaust system to Portugal. It seems they only allow "smallish" boxes.
Modified by SMSP at 11:11 PM 6/13/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally prefer the 87 crank over the 89.</TD></TR></TABLE> reason being...?